After 42 Test Positive For COVID-19, Nurses In Western Pennsylvania Walk Off Job

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Above photo: From CBS News.

Pittsburgh, PA – On Thursday, dozens of nurses, members of SEIU Healthcare PA, walked off at the Brighton Rehab and Wellness Center in Western Pennsylvania’s Beaver County.

The walk-off came after 36 elderly residents and six healthcare workers at the nursing home tested positive for COVID-19. Already, two senior citizens at the facility have died of COVID-19.

Nurses at the facility say that they haven’t been given N-95 masks to wear around residents. After days of the union being rebuffed in its attempt to meet with management to discuss safety issues and hazard pay, nurses on the job walked off on Wednesday.

“Financially, I probably shouldn’t make that decision, but it’s not about finances. It’s about my health and another person’s health,” Nurse Tamera Witherspoon told CBS Pittsburgh. 

The union says that it won’t go back in until they get proper protective equipment for the staff at Brighton Rehab.

“These workers and residents deserve nothing less, we would never send our troops into a war without their helmet, gun, and boots,” said SEIU Healthcare President Matthew Yarnell.

The strike comes as the Trump administration killed a provision in the new COVID-19 bailout package that would have forced OSHA to institute an emergency rule standard to protect healthcare workers from COVID-19.

The provision was killed at the bequest of the American Hospital Association. Now, many frontline healthcare workers say they lack basic protective equipment.

Increasingly, frontline workers from healthcare to warehouses to manufacturing are walking off the job across the country to protest unsafe working conditions.

With a lack of federal regulations, SEIU Healthcare PA says that its willing to take action into its own hands to force employers to protect frontline healthcare workers.

“It’s going to take all of you to make sure we are never in this position again,” SEIU Healthcare PA President Matthew Yarnell wrote on his Facebook page to his members.

  • The strike comes as the Trump administration killed a provision in the new COVID-19 bailout package that would have forced OSHA to institute an emergency rule standard to protect healthcare workers from COVID-19.

    The provision was killed at the bequest of the American Hospital Association. Now, many frontline healthcare workers say they lack basic protective equipment.

    So disgusting…^^.

  • Nature has provided us with a general strike. We have been too passive as workers. Time for folks to wake up. Lincoln said it best:

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/299ba563c4b8bbe590909ba2a6bed2352b046ea52efaef430c3f9f0834300e5b.jpg

  • didactic1

    Nurses make very good $. Let us not make them saints. They don’t clean butts anymore. Assistant doctors, with all the arrogance.

  • didactic1

    Disease is filthy. Always will be. What are you gonna whine about when frequent climate severity knocks out reliable power? We’re OWED electricity?

  • didactic1

    Lincoln sent people to miserable deaths, much from disease, and accomplished nothing but getting a marble monument.

  • didactic1

    Like any employer is scared of OSHA?

    😄

  • kevinzeese

    Nurses do very important work. They do not get the credit they deserve, the pay they deserve and in too many hospitals are required to take care of to many cases. Your view does not represent the view of Popular Resistance.

  • kevinzeese

    Wow – your comments are really counterproductive. Ending slavery is accomplishing nothing. Yikes.

  • kevinzeese

    OSHA is underfunded and cannot investigate all the crimes committed by business against workers. It needs an increase in fudning so it can do its job. It has been intentionally underfunded to prevent workers being protected.

  • didactic1

    Regardless, it’s irrelevant. Obama did squat for it or other labor protections. Harvard crats run the Dem Party.

  • didactic1

    Lincoln sent no soldiers to end slavery. Nor did he allow his generals to commit atrocities against civilians to end slavery.

  • didactic1

    That’s “care management” bud. Nurses today are part of the boss class. In places like DC and Baltimore they are essential to keeping blacks and Latinos in their intended place- sick, weak and if necessary, dead.

  • CB

    Why would this be any different from all the other disgusting things the filthy traitor has done?

    It’s not like there isn’t a pattern there…

  • CB

    It reminds me of the bizarre ramblings about lockdowns “harming the economy”.

    …as if dead people are economically productive!

    Baffling.

  • Cab Driver xxx

    didactic1 is as despicable a poster as can be found across these boards, kevin. His trail of commentary makes Trump himself look like Mother Theresa. If the ban feature isn’t used on him, it ought never be used at all.

  • Cab Driver xxx

    You are pure scum.

  • Baffling.
    ……………………..
    Indeed. The POTUS is crazier than I am. And I ran somebody over with a car on purpose.

  • Oh that Lincoln – more powerful than a locomotive, faster than a speeding bullet…

  • Disease isn’t the only thing that is filthy.

    “People”, such as yourself, who dismiss the basic fundamental right of workers to safe working conditions so exploitive employers can pocket a few more bucks, fall into that category easily.

  • Of course Trump is the archetype sociopath but he isn’t working on his own.

  • They should be.

    They should also be afraid of being shut down when they have no workers to exploit.

  • Yikes!! 🙂

  • didactic1

    They are not scared of OSHA, NLRB, DOA, DOL, HHS, DOC, or GOD.

  • didactic1

    Nice speech. Demand immortality. It’s your right, right? Where DO those rights come from? Either barrel of a gun or nature? One of them. Good luck on your search.

  • didactic1

    😆

  • They SHOULD be afraid.

  • Are you paid to be a shill for the exploitive class, or do you do it for free?

  • didactic1

    That is one way to deal with reality. Grovel to the top 10%. The professional bourgeoise.

  • V4V

    Painting with a broad brush weakens your “arguments.” How many “arrogant” nurses have you come across and how many nurses are there? What’s next? Attack teachers as overly paid, glorified babysitters?

  • didactic1

    Excellent comment by you re teachers,!

  • didactic1

    Smash all elites including PC bourgeois academics.

  • Cab Driver xxx

    Pal, you aren’t here to discuss reality. You traffic in confusion and chaos and your postings are absent of any semblance of human cognizance. Nurses, like firemen, cops and teachers – are among the top end of “working-class” salaries. And as such, they make splendid fall guys for sowing discord and jealousy among those left behind by capitalist austerity. “How come he/she has insurance and we don’t?” “What right do they have to a union?” “Seems like 30 bucks an hour is more than most are making…” This is the chattering of the Pinkerton scab. This is the chattering of those doing the dark work of the capitalist. You are as low as it gets.

  • Why don’t you run along back to the Digger… where they embrace your sociopathy as “normal”.

  • It was only a Volkswagen. When he realized that I was coming for him, he lay down in a very small ditch. Wheels rolled right over him. Man stayed with me 10 years. So who was the crazy one.

  • V4V

    Thanks, I am glad you could recognize that! lmao

  • Good lord!!

  • V4V

    Hey, moderator- I made this comment to CB, and it went into moderation then disappeared:

    “You can thank your Democrats for Trump. Had the Democrats chosen Sanders or just about anyone other than the loathed Hillary, the outcome would have been different. For example, many polls showed Sanders beating Trump by a bigger margin than Hillary.”

    Is there an issue with what I said? The original comment was “pathetic Democrats,” but when I saw it went into moderation, I deleted the word “pathetic.” Why the moderation?

  • Things are quiet now. I have turned into a cute little old lady. What a relief.

  • didactic1

    Violent revolution is normal.

  • didactic1

    You are not aware of current class structure in hospitals and medical practices.

  • John Kelly

    I was with you until you mentioned cops. I agree with the rest of your post. The cops that aren’t racist authoritarian goose-steppers cover for those who are. Their unions are there to protect them from accountability by the public for torture, false arrest, state sponsored murder, illegal surveillance, unconstitutional stop and frisk, public strip searches, and other humiliations visited on minority communities and the poor. Cops are lethal tools of the capitalist class that come from the old slave patrol mentality. They are not of the working class. They are the enemy of the working class.

  • I had a c-section because I could not push out my 10 lb. middle daughter after hours of labor. I shit myself sometime after the birth/c-section. It was a Nurse that wiped my numb butt. Go and pfuck yourself with a rusty trowel.

  • Mensch59

    I’d like a breakdown of the most common reasons people call 911. I suspect that domestic disturbances and mental health breakdowns are right up there. In the vast majority of calls to the police, I don’t doubt that the cops respond as members of the working class.

  • Didactic1 is a troll. Trolls can be fun. I cannot tell yet if it is a real troll or a tongue in cheek troll.

  • didactic1

    The rust is really pleasurable.

  • Cab Driver xxx

    How you doing, John?
    Respectfully disagree, brother. Not with how cops are utilized under capitalism. You’ve nailed all of this succinctly. And add to your list one of their most detrimental features – that of capitalist friendly strikebreakers. But there is a prominent difference between the roles police play in capitalist society vs. the unmistakeable need for them even in the best of societies imaginable. And, like the military, they are most certainly working-class yet (under capitalism), it’s lethal enemy.

  • Cab Driver xxx

    I’ve been a nurse for 25 years. And I’m aware of “class structure” throughout this fked up society. But you don’t care anything about that, do you, troll? Your one-line drive-bies fool no one.

  • Cab Driver xxx

    Bullssnot, V. “Broad brush” my azz. The cat is a str8 up fking capitalist troll that doesn’t make “arguments” as much as he smears feces.

  • didactic1

    Grovel to a doctor.

  • Cab Driver xxx

    All across capitalist society, “groveling” is rampant. And so are drive-by trolls.
    Blocked.

  • V4V

    Thank you, did you notice I put “arguments” in quotes?

  • John Kelly

    Following your lead… it is blocked.

  • John Kelly

    I’ll meet you half way. They are working class traitors.

  • John Kelly

    Lots of white people feel that way.

  • CB

    I think the MAGA cult is the bigger story!

    Criminals like Dirty Donnie are a dime a dozen.

    It is the sick, treasonous and self-destructive minority which continues to stick by him which allows his crime spree to continue.

  • Mensch59

    It’s unnecessary to interject race into domestic disturbances and mental health breakdowns.

  • SteelPirate

    This cat might be a troll but you’re off here. Nothing personal man but you’re partly wrong. Yes contradictions 🙂 The majority of nurses, firemen, cops, and teachers are some of the biggest scabs on the planet – unionized or otherwise – when it comes to working class solidarity with those beneath their station on the economic pyramid. The IWW motto of an injury to one is an injury to all does not apply. That’s a fact. “Middle class” thinking and the economic libertarian mindset is rampant in these unions. Any sowing of discord and jealousy comes from the narrative of capitalist society that puts these professions on a pedestal deemed worthy of extensive reverence and hero worship from the rest of the workers.

    You know how we’ve always discussed the necessity of unions Z so don’t take that personal Z. We have major major problems throughout this society Z and hiding our head in the sand to those kinds of realities must end. There was a time when I pulled no punches on those realities. I’m going back to that.

    The “we are the 99% meme” is an utter an complete nonsense slogan of zero practical reality on the ground and that is much of our problem. Most of the group I speak of will risk NOTHING for working class solidarity, better conditions for the poor and elderly, or anything else that has any impact on changing social conditions and inequality in this country or anywhere else. Their only “service” is in protecting their own status, preserving their own individual self- interests, and protecting the capitalist status quo to the detriment of the rest of the working class.

    Most look right through the blue-collar people they interact with every day — clerks, service workers, attendants, janitors, cashiers, delivery people, ect… They only see 20% of the people and haven’t a clue and couldn’t care less how the “other side” lives. And yes, they will all deny they are doing so, and will admonish anyone who points that out.

    JK is right but not only just about cops.

  • Cab Driver xxx

    My turn to make dinner, now man.
    You’re part right with this, sp.
    Really right.
    And you’re part fos.
    Give me a little time to get back…

  • John Kelly

    Lots of white people feel that way as well : ) I guess, for purposes of anti-obtusificationishinisitoud, I have to point out that I was responding to this fairy tale:

    “In the vast majority of calls to the police, I don’t doubt that the cops respond as members of the working class.”

    Those who are not victims of these racist gangs of heavily armed goons and their cruel and inhumane methods of social control… liberals like you for instance… conveniently ignore the fact that officer friendly is an important part of the police state that exists for many people in this death cult. It is your privilege to believe otherwise.

    You are falling down on the job… nothing about blood-shmerfing aristocratic leftists dog paddling the moat today? No reflexive left-punching? No smears?

  • BBQman
  • Mensch59

    Frankly, I don’t care about what you think about cops/police officers as a group. Insulting name-calling (i.e. goons, traitors, liberals, people in this death cult) is infantile & illiberal. Why anyone would wish to be perceived as an infantile and illiberal leftist in order to signal his/her solidarity with the working class is inconceivable to me.

  • Mensch59

    You fear to see that Trump and his (hard working) supporters can be as depraved as the (hard working) liberals & Democrats you loathe. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/cc4b843f00966d678af2d04739c55e2350aa0a3b29d624df360722513ab6e8d7.jpg

  • SteelPirate

    All good…

  • Mensch59

    I guess if you have a bad attitude toward European Caucasians, then everything is colored by your perception of how white people feel.
    The invention of the term “white” was by capitalists to divide the working class.
    Why a leftist has bought into the racism invented by capitalists is also inconceivable to me.

  • didactic1

    The US is going bankrupt. The economy can’t consist of healthcare. A bloated system. Nurses could be more useful in textile factories.

  • John Kelly

    “Frankly I don’t care” how I am perceived by a left punching liberal who has never had a bad experience with cops… even while others without your privilege have had dozens of bad experiences… one who trolls leftists and crap floods message boards with dozens upon dozens of the same “exit the vampire’s castle” “illiberal leftists” comments when its favorite sellout sheepdog politician is called out for his support for war criminals.

  • BBQman

    The central banking system controls $880 trillion in fiat wealth while propagandizing an estimated $245 trillion in fiat debt, this will be examined in detail by mankind.

    Central Banks are built on unstable foundations like the Tower of Babel was, languages have purposely became confounded, people talk past each other while clinging to worldly things.

    Trump is rebalancing the economic scales, which the Federal Reserve, Central Banks and other subsidiaries of the Rothschild dynasty have been polluting since before and long after the implementation of the Magna Carta in 1215.

    It was always our creators designed plan for Mankind to possess individual agency, to evolve and gain worldly wisdom, not be programmed by insecure individuals who have no idea what their true purpose is, and as a result, they have dedicated their lives to world control through corrupted currencies.

  • John Kelly

    Lots of white people feel that way.

    So, on the one hand you claim capitalists invented the racial description of white, and on the other you claim, without evidence, that I think racism was invented by capitalists. Classic garbage from you. You are back in form.

    Fake leftists and racists often want to quash any discussion about the obvious racist policies and actions affecting minority communities, because somehow it suits their ignorant narrative… one that constantly suggests racism is not much of a problem. Divide and conquer. You could learn a lot by reading Black Agenda Report … no, wait, being familiar with your dreck, you would not learn anything. Exit The Faux Left Veal Pen is a great book… highly recommended!

    You are every bit as pathetic as those liberal identity fetishists who don’t care about our criminal foreign policy as long as there is a black president or black people in powerful propaganda pushing positions. They drone on about “people of color”, and DO NOT CARE about policy.

    There is both a class struggle and a race struggle. The two are intertwined, and those who seek to minimize one or the other are not in solidarity with the left.

  • John Kelly

    Right you are. I used to be a welder/pipe fitter in a small shipyard, and they rarely showed up. This was in the late seventies and early eighties. Fast forward to just a few months ago, when I helped my brother deliver his tools to the last ship he worked on as a welder/fitter before retiring… it was horrific. This was in Seattle. The air was filled with grinding dust and smoke, many workers did not have respirators, and the safety railings were dangerously inadequate. There were no ventilation fans. It was worse than any boat I was ever on 40 years ago. Lots of young men destroying their lungs. I was only there for about 10 minutes and I felt as if I had smoked a pack of cigarettes. Workers are afraid to say anything because they have no collective power, and can be fired at anytime. It is a disgrace.

  • Mensch59

    Looks like you’re the one “crap flooding” this article. The article is about a strike and this comments section isn’t for your bigotry toward law enforcement and officers of the peace.

    It’s sad — but typical — that you deny the very existence of the illiberal and infantile leftists who make up a sub-group of the Left.
    Have your final say. “While it is difficult for most users to let a troll have the last word, this tactic successfully takes the wind out of a casual troll’s sails.”

  • Mensch59

    Trump is rebalancing the economic scales…

    Yeah. Just like war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, the geocentric universe is astronomically true, the earth is flat.

  • BBQman

    No need to be sarcastic…..what other proof is required to open your eyes?

    Trump is a common sense pragmatic and somewhat dyslexic man who refuses to allow the banking cartels to rule over mankind any longer….. which is the reason Nancy Pelosi Adam Schiff Chuck Schumer‘s and the rest of those rabble-rousers are trying with reckless abandon to destroy anything Trump.

    Trump, who unlike other regional leaders who’ve been hand picked by the banking cartels then seduced by central bank cartel foot soldiers (George Soros, John Podesta, Jeffrey ‘past his best by date’ Epstein), then blackmailed to do the bidding of institutions like the Federal Reserve, Trump plows on with the knowledge and wisdom that mankind has a different purpose on earth than the one pushed by the emotionally crippled global banking industry.

    Same cripples push the fake agw theory which is the most blatant attempt to reduce world population’s since Pangaea inhabitants used nuclear weapon systems 150 million years ago.

    Earth’s not overpopulated, it’s appearing many people on earth have never found their purpose for being.

  • Mensch59

    There is both a class struggle and a race struggle. The two are intertwined, and those who seek to minimize one or the other are not in solidarity with the left.

    Absolutely. The two struggles don’t warrant injecting anti-Caucasian bigotry and anti-police bigotry into every conversation unnecessarily.
    If you think that bigotry facilitates agitation, education, resistance, organizing, solidarity; then you’d better think again.

  • John Kelly

    How gracious of you to allow me the last word! I will take this wonderful opportunity to tell you a story or two. When I was a young teenager I saw the Seattle police surround a young black teenager who I recognized from the school we went to. They beat him senseless and dragged him face down over several concrete steps. This happened in front of a large crowd of people. The pigs who did this threatened everybody there with violence. I never saw him again.

    I know black people who have lived in Seattle their entire lives and their experiences with cops are far different than mine. One friend has been pulled over dozens of times for being black while driving a lowered car. He is an excellent driver and drives a truck professionally. I drove a lowered car all over Seattle for much longer than he, and was pulled over once for racing, once for too many people in a small car, and once for expired tabs on a car I borrowed from a friend. I did not fear for my life when I was pulled over because I have the benefit of the privilege that goes with being a white man.

    Another black friend was in her home when the cops came and hauled her off in the middle of the night with her children screaming in fear because these thugs had to execute an arrest warrant for something so inconsequential that I cannot remember what the hell it was… a parking ticket, perhaps. They took her in her bathrobe with nothing on underneath and handcuffed her hands behind her back so she was exposed in public when her robe fell open. Try to imagine the humiliation. These racist piggies were laughing at her as they terrorized her and her children.

    Seattle, as far as I’m aware, did not have a police torture chamber for black people as was exposed in Chicago, but they were certainly racist and murderous in their policing.

    I have several other similar stories, but I’m sure your attention is drifting so I will wrap this up…

    A former police chief of Seattle, Norm Stamper, wrote a book about racist policing in Seattle. He regrets his choices during the WTO police riots (my description, not his) He is a little too tame and lame liberal for my tastes, but as a Milquetoast liberal you might find it instructive: Breaking Rank: A Top Cop’s Exposé of the Dark Side of American Policing

  • Collectivist

    “Why a leftist has bought into the racism invented by capitalists is also inconceivable to me.”

  • John Kelly

    “The two struggles don’t warrant injecting anti-Caucasian bigotry and anti-police bigotry into every conversation unnecessarily.”

    Good thing nobody does that then, isn’t it?

  • Calgacus

    The majority of nurses, firemen, cops, and teachers are some of the biggest scabs on the planet – unionized or otherwise – when it comes to working class

    Cops are the only group that this statement is at all accurate about.
    The “reality” you say you are explaining is a fantasy. Please go back to pulling punches, because the punches you are landing here and now are against the working class and for the bosses.

    Far from being the biggest scabs, nurses, teachers and firemen etc are at the heart of what union power remains. Some of the national unions have been very bad – like the SEIU, but that is not at all the same thing as the slander of calling the rank and file members “scabs” – the ordinary members who have waged huge battles against their own corrupt union leaderships in league with management and protected by corrupt courts.

  • V4V

    As a teacher and one who ran for state and national executive office, I can vouch for the fact the NEA is worthless appendage to the Democratic Party who endorsed Hillary Clinton even though she is an advocate of charter schools over the more progressive Sanders. The AFT is even more in the pocket of the corrupt Democratic Party. When I have attended their national conventions, the majority of their members are decidedly backward and reactionary in my opinion.

    Any motion that was remotely progressive was objected to, ruled out of order, or voted down. F the NEA & AFT & CTA. I am done wasting my time with those dyed-in-the-wool Democrats. The strikes that were put on were against their wishes and often against the wishes of their locals as well. For the most part, the unions have sold out.

  • Calgacus

    That’s near what I was saying. But SteelPirate was saying that most members of such professions are scabs who “protect the capitalist status quo to the detriment of the rest of the working class”. Nonsense and slander.

  • Cab Driver xxx

    If it’s possible to at once agree with you while at the same time describing how you’re wrong then this has been my own struggle for as long as I can recall, man. Regardless, one thing’s more than certain: there’s sure a wide gap between scab and what constitutes the working class. And they sure ain’t mutually exclusive.

    “The majority of nurses, firemen, cops, and teachers are some of the biggest scabs on the planet – unionized or otherwise – when it comes to working class solidarity with those beneath their station on the economic pyramid.”

    Yep. Not only with those they see as “beneath their station,” either, SP. But one another as well. From day one, all of these workers – myself included, are well-versed in “This is how we do things around here.” The bosses’ mandate is made more than clear: “You’re professionals – and we expect you to act that way.” That comes from administrators, doctors, managers, and HR (the absolute scum of this Corona infested earth). Control and more control. The full monty. The grooming, hazing and “cultural expectations” of “the job” are hegemonically stuffed down your throat by folks who a year or 20 before had it done to them. And, like you say, most of us “controllers” if you will, are all scabs when it comes to protecting our positions at the cost of others. Atomsk admonished his readers, “Don’t trust me,” remember? The challenge to the “middle-class” (many by the way, living light years beyond their means – and that includes having children) is the same as its always been to all factions of the working class. From the lettuce picker to the nurse practitioner: if you’re working for wages. those wages tether you to your class. No different for even scabs, man.

    And with some exceptions, you’re right, many of this mix look down on folks they see as beneath them. I ain’t one of them but I damn sure know what you’re saying here. But some small modicum of work stature over others means only there are plenty above you, brother.

    As a nurse, both in the ER and in psychiatry, I receive the very folks most beaten down and abused by this system – the alcoholics and addicts, the homeless and mentally ill. They come and come and come and come… Management doesn’t even call them “patients” anymore. They call them fking “customers,” man. CUSTOMERS! But managers don’t feel the hard edges these customers wheel in with them. The rank and file do. I do. As often as not, like the public defender, I’m just the guy standing between the broken and whatever it is that’s been lost or taken. And in the same way the public defender shouldn’t be lumped in with an Ivy league corporate lawyer working for Dupont or Exxon, don’t mix up a staff nurse with those crawling into management’s ranks after getting their online MBA. And fk didactic, nurses in fact do still wipe butts!!!

    If modern-day capitalism is anything it’s a musical chairs game of I got mine and f**k you if you don’t. Toilet paper, job? Sink or swim. Fish or cut fking bait. That’s the system, SP – not the vocation/profession to blame. Everyone “working” for a living is joined by that collective action, effort, anxiety and fear that it can all be taken away. I have only my labor to sell. Scab or no, our task as leftists is towards the consciousness of our similarities more than our differences. Scabs are everywhere, man. Capitalists put ‘em there.

  • So lame. You are twelve and posting on the computer in your Mom’s basement while fapping into a gym sock.

  • Hey, you remember the study we started on Capital? Not exactly, but kind of related to your and SP’s discussion here about tiers in the working class. TA came up with a masterful description of “wages” for Marxists – just throwing it out there.

    Socially Necessary Labor

    “The simplest definition of socially necessary labour time is the amount of labour time performed by a worker of average skill and productivity, working with tools of the average productive potential, to produce a given commodity.” (Section 1 Chapter 1 Capital)

    It is critical to understand this. The bosses are always going on and on about individuals having skill or talent or motivation or whatever, presenting the idea that society is merely the aggregation of individual traits and activities, that all things flow outward from the beautiful imaginations of the owners. Power flows out from them, regardless of the quality of their brain, and they try to enforce their ideas on us, and those ideas are the ideas that justify their material interests. People arguing against the labor theory of value will say “but what if the person works faster? How can we say that labor is the standard of value?” They cannot conceive of looking at things in any way other than as individuals. “I have more because I am smarter” is the foundation for that self-deception. Powerful forces are at play, much bigger than individuals and intentions and ideas. Capitalism isn’t a philosophy, it is a phenomenon, a developmental stage in human existence.

    ~~TA

    Skilled versus Unskilled Labor

    Operatic tenor Luciano Pavarotti was highly skilled and made a s-load of money, yes? So therefore, skilled labor is more valuable than unskilled labor, and Pavarotti’s investment in training was rewarded, true? Or is it? If you took all of the hours that all of the millions of tenors spent becoming skilled and divided Pavarotti’s income by that figure, you would see that an hour of labor by skilled operatic tenors has no more value than the hour of labour by the hole digger.

    Another example: for every game played by a highly skilled professional hockey player, how many millions of hours were spent by youth hockey players.

    From a social standpoint, the exceptional “highly skilled” individuals could not exist in a vacuum. The “prior investment” is made by the society at large, not by the individuals, and most who go through the training never become skilled labor. There is a constant reduction going on.

    Individual skill etc. is a product of social forces, it doesn’t work the other way around – society is not the product of individual skill

    ~~ TA

    Mertocracy

    The entire meritocracy thing that we always run into when we try to talk to “controller class” people about politics is predicated on the idea that many try, but few succeed, yes? Many go to school, but few become doctors. Those few are to be seen as better people – no shit, that is actually true, as improbable as it seems 😉 – and therefore it is justifiable that they are paid vastly more than nurses, let alone janitors. You cannot have the select and privileged few without the many. The social investment includes not merely the investment in or by the fortunate individual, but the entire investment by everyone in the society. So, we have a social process that we ascribe to individuals. What could go wrong?

    ~~ TA

  • didactic1

    I am 12. But I’m waiting to return to Princeton. Prodigy. You are funny.

  • SteelPirate

    Good post man. Goes without saying. I’m not blaming vocations. I’m calling on individuals in those professions to solidarity with their class interests. My simple reply for now is this Z. The “middle class” delusions must be smashed. There are only two sides. Ruling class and working class and whoever isn’t on one side is on the other. Everybody has to pick a side brother. And those wallowing in delusions of middle class status are on the wrong side.

  • SteelPirate

    The fantasy is yours. Class consciousness is knowing which side of the fence you’re on. Class analysis is figuring out who is there with you. The question is this. How many are willing to put aside their trinkets, their status, and their success and work towards working class solidarity with the entirety of the working class including blue-collar grunts and the struggling poor of all races. More importantly, how many are ready to identify capitalism as the problem.There are entirely too many “middle class” turd blossoms and gatekeepers of the ruling class living in a nice comfortable little bubble who think they are immune from the ravages of capitalism and enabling ruling class domination of the rest of the masses with that delusion. They are generally “displeased with the current state of affairs” of course if it affects them individually but you can rest assure if push comes to shove they are siding with the boss and the ruling class every time if it doesn’t.

    There are many among “us” who pay lip service to “solidarity” who could actually care less about the unemployed, the poor, the elderly as long as they get to preserve their own economic interest and comfort zone and they are not affected. There is no solidarity to be found there until the tides of poverty and humility wash over their own boats and that is what you’re seeing. As harsh as that may be in the current circumstances. Those that have no use for history are those who don’t notice their chains until it’s too late.

    —————–

    The earth is for all the people. That is the demand.

    The machinery of production and distribution for all the people. That is the demand.

    The collective ownership and control of industry and its democratic management in the interest of all the people. That is the demand.

    The elimination of rent, interest, profit and the production of wealth to satisfy the wants of all the people. That is the demand.

    Cooperative industry in which all shall work together in harmony as the basis of a new social order, a higher civilization, a real republic. That is the demand.

    The end of class struggles and class rule, of master and slave, of ignorance and vice, of poverty and shame, of cruelty and crime. That is the demand

    The birth of freedom. That is the demand.

    Solidarity is not a matter of sentiment but a fact, cold and impassive as the granite foundations of a skyscraper. If the basic elements, identity of interest, clarity of vision, honesty of intent, and oneness of purpose, or any of these is lacking, all sentimental please for solidarity, and all other efforts to achieve it will be barren of results.

    –Eugene Debs

  • SteelPirate

    The fantasy is yours. Class consciousness is knowing which side of the fence you’re on. Class analysis is figuring out who is there with you. The question is this. How many are willing to put aside their trinkets, their status, and their success and work towards working class solidarity with the entirety of the working class including blue-collar grunts and the struggling poor of all races. More importantly, how many are ready to identify capitalism as the problem.There are entirely too many “middle class” turd blossoms and gatekeepers of the ruling class living in a nice comfortable little bubble who think they are immune from the ravages of capitalism and enabling ruling class domination of the rest of the masses with that delusion. They are generally “displeased with the current state of affairs” of course, if it affects them individually, but you can rest assure if push comes to shove they are siding with the boss and the ruling class every time if it doesn’t.

    There are many among “us” who pay lip service to “solidarity” who could actually care less about the unemployed, the poor, the elderly as long as they get to preserve their own economic interest and comfort zone and they are not affected. There is no solidarity to be found there until the tides of poverty and humility wash over their own boats and that is what you’re seeing. As harsh as that may be in the current circumstances. Those that have no use for history are those who don’t notice their chains until it’s too late.

  • SteelPirate

    The earth is for all the people. That is the demand.

    The machinery of production and distribution for all the people. That is the demand.

    The collective ownership and control of industry and its democratic management in the interest of all the people. That is the demand.

    The elimination of rent, interest, profit and the production of wealth to satisfy the wants of all the people. That is the demand.

    Cooperative industry in which all shall work together in harmony as the basis of a new social order, a higher civilization, a real republic. That is the demand.

    The end of class struggles and class rule, of master and slave, of ignorance and vice, of poverty and shame, of cruelty and crime. That is the demand

    The birth of freedom. That is the demand.

    Solidarity is not a matter of sentiment but a fact, cold and impassive as the granite foundations of a skyscraper. If the basic elements, identity of interest, clarity of vision, honesty of intent, and oneness of purpose, or any of these is lacking, all sentimental please for solidarity, and all other efforts to achieve it will be barren of results.

    –Eugene Debs

  • Did stand up. Just throw money. No quarters.

  • Cab Driver xxx

    They don’t say “solidarity.”
    Too political sounding.
    They say “We’re all in this together.”

  • Cab Driver xxx

    Yeah, I’ve never understood the thinking that wealth is the sole inspiration for effort.
    The Pavarottis and Gretzkys of the world will emerge regardless of economics.

    “Tyranny cuts off the head that sings, but the voice at the bottom of the well returns to the secret springs of the earth and out of the darkness rises up through the mouth of the people.”

    – Pablo Neruda

  • Trump is a common sense pragmatic

    You’ve been sniffing those BBQ fumes too much, man. The only thing that is “pragmatic” to the exact extent that his personal interests are served.

    Trump plows on with the knowledge and wisdom that mankind has a different purpose on earth

    Knowledge and wisdom?? Trump??? Dude is a simpleton ignoramus of the highest order. Bully? Sure… But there is NO freakin’ way the fascist has any wisdom – much less that mankind has a “different purpose on earth” – as he terrorizes, strangles and impoverishes those least able to defend themselves – and enriches his chosen cabal of fellow lunatics.

    Your drooling sycophancy is certainly gross to observe.

  • BBQman

    “ – as he terrorizes, strangles and impoverishes those least able to defend themselves”

    Who are you talking about?

  • The ones who claim people are solely motivated by wealth are conservatives who themselves are only motivated by wealth.

    Beautiful Neruda quote. Perfect

  • Your lord and savior, of course.

  • Cab Driver xxx

    Don’t know about that, nb. Conservative or no, it’s been my experience that few demonstrate a willingness to say it outright. The myth of rising boats is an equal opportunity player. This entire discussion is relegated to another age before the Soviet-Union was replaced by the credit card.

  • BBQman

    You still haven’t said anything of substance.

  • SteelPirate

    Right man. Like private/public partnerships. “We’re all in this together.”

    and…

    ” We just need more regulation of capitalism. We’re all in this together.”

    “Just move to where the jobs are to keep our economy going. We’re all in this together.”

    “Capitalism is the highest and final achievement of mankind. We’re all in this together.”

    “The United States represents the best in human societies. We’re all in this together.”

    ” Human nature means there will always be wars anyway. We’re all in this together.”

    ” Everybody needs to go organic.We’re all in this together.”

    “I support a minimum wage but it must not hurt our small businesses. We’re all in this together.”

    ” Illegals drag down our schools and steal our tax dollars.We’re all in this together.”

    ” We must be smart and pragmatic about entitlement reform. We’re all in this together.”

    “Be the change you wish to see and set an example. We’re all in this together.”

    ” I used to work in human resources. We’re all in this together.”

    ” We must work within the system. We’re all in this together.”

    ” I’m a proud member of our reality based community. We’re all in this together.”

    “I give to charity and the poor all the time. We’re all in this together.”

    “More personal responsibility and work ethic is needed. We’re all in this together.”

    “People need to educate themselves and work towards goals to achieve the success needed to survive in this capitalist economy. We’re all in this together.”

    “Support our military and troops. We are an exceptional country. We’re all in this together.”

    ” If you don’t vote you have no right to complain. We’re all in this together.”

    ” I don’t look down on my inferiors, I try to help them. We’re all in this together.”

    ” Don’t make the perfect the enemy of the good. We’re all in this together.”

  • Are you familiar with the movie “Being There”? To those of us observing the surreal show, Trump plays Chauncey Gardener.

    Yes, the Emperor REALLY has no clothes on. Shocker!!

  • BBQman

    “to those of us observing the surreal show”

    I live love breath work and build value, don’t have much time to watch (idiot programming) shows put on by the msm.

    Learn a real job friend.

  • No idea what you “do” beyond virtue signaling here. Pity you deem art and culture to be beneath you; making for a stunted person.

    “Being There” is a dark comedy starring Peter Sellers; a fantastic metaphor for the Trump phenomenon and remarkably prescient.

    Here is a short description (because you are so important and busy you lack the time to do any research yourself): Based on Jerzy Kosinski’s satirical novel about an illiterate gardener who has lived his entire life behind the walls of a Washington, D.C., house, his only knowledge of the world coming from the TV programs he watches. When his employer and protector dies, he is catapulted into the fast lane of political power.

    https://www.amazon.com/Being-There-Peter-Sellers/dp/B000056WRD

  • Mensch59

    Maybe you could inject your bigotry into fewer conversations.
    There are very Very VERY few people so friendly to extreme anarchism that these people want the abolition of laws, the abolition of law enforcement, no constables/police/peace officers on patrol.
    What are you IN FAVOR OF regarding laws, enforcing laws, community policing in some future workers paradise of a post-capitalist social order? Maybe in such a society, all human behavior will magically become benign.

  • Mensch59

    Horrible examples of authoritarian behavior you provided. Thanks though.
    I suspect that you could also find a plethora of stories about poor black people being treated well by non-murderous & non-racist constables, police, peace officers.

    You seem to think that a defense of non-murderous & non-racist working class constables, police, peace officers is proof positive that one is a (dreaded) “liberal”. I suspect that if you polled every single true leftist on the planet — i.e. all of us pro-working class anti-capitalist anti-imperialist anti-war socialists and eco-socialists and communists and anarchists — then you’d discover that the vast majority of us would offer a defense of non-murderous & non-racist working class constables, police, peace officers.

    Sorry for offering you the last word and then reneging.

  • John Kelly

    “There are very Very VERY few people so friendly to extreme anarchism
    that these people want the abolition of laws, the abolition of law
    enforcement, no constables/police/peace officers on patrol.”

    There you go… just as expected… trying to fabricate a fantasy position for me so that you can attack things I never said. There is a phrase for that. I did not say or suggest anything like that, but that’s how you roll… from one disingenuous smear to another. Your reading comprehension is abysmal, and your debate technique is pure right wingery.

    The brow beating attempt in your last paragraph is the typical ineffectual bullying of one who cannot argue on the merits of his/her position but must demand that their opposition solve all of the problems of the world before commenting on them.

    I have plenty of ideas of what constitutes good community policing… some of which I will share with you, even though you are an obvious excrementalist. Disarm the police and drastically reduce their numbers. Psychological testing to clear their ranks of all authoritarians. If they can’t do their job unless dressed and outfitted like robocop, they have no business having power over others. Educate compassionate candidates for policing on conflict resolution and how to back off instead of escalating. Steroid testing for all. Jury trials for any officer who assaults a citizen. Accountability. Murder charges for killer cops. The exact opposite of how policing works now. You are welcome.

  • BBQman

    Being There was not a dark comedy, it was a silly comedy….and funny.
    I’ve watched it a few times.

    Point is, Trump is doing a great job as CIC.

  • CoCoLuv9491

    The lockdown is predicted to create unemployment levels higher than during the Great Depression. Workers are simultaneously losing their healthcare insurance. The economic devastation for workers in this country, coupled with no insurance, will cause far more deaths than this virus ever will.

  • CoCoLuv9491

    Apparently the Democratic loyalist hordes have infested the moderation panel at Popular Resistance, too.

    Do not speak ill of Queen Hillary. Expect the same moderation when we call out the senile rapist Biden for the loser he is.

  • Mensch59

    Good ideas. Kudos.

  • CoCoLuv9491

    Well, if they’re a minority, they still managed to get him elected.

    Note for Democratic Party loyalists: Referring to people who prefer Trump over your own brand of corporate militarism as “deplorable” has proven to not be an effective campaign strategy. Just saying…

  • CoCoLuv9491

    I agree with your comment about nurses.

    But how do you claim to “represent the view of Popular Resistance?” By what authority?

  • catwoman 51

    I support the strike !!

  • catwoman 51

    So that makes it ok ? NOT.

  • CoCoLuv9491

    So what makes what OK? Try to be a little more specific.

  • pinkprince500

    Lincoln was more interested in saving the Union than in ending slavery. He criticized Harriet Beecher Stowe for writing “Uncle Tom’s Cabin”.

  • Phil

    “Point is, Trump is doing a great job as CIC.”

    Perhaps you could explain what massive cosmic good came from launching the “mother of all bombs,” or the murder of the Iranian General in Iraq or even the complete clusterf**k of self-serving douchebaggery that he has displayed since being all-knowing about Covid19??

  • BBQman

    The MOAB in Afghanistan was useful as a weapon of war to save American soldiers lives, the Iran’s general was evil human filth.

    Now tell me more about this self serving douchebaggery that only you can see?

  • barryjo

    At The risk of pointing out the obvious, it was Your employer and your elected officials and their bureaucracy that deleted the provision. The President can only sign what he is sent.Unless he vetoes the whole thing. Yeah, that would go over bigly.

  • barryjo

    No union in Seattle??? I am amazed.

  • barryjo

    This is a hell of a way to start the week. The sanctimonious crowd is warmed up.

  • (hey can you take my comment out of pending please? Also – can you white list me – because of the downvote bot, I have a low “disqus rep” and comments sometimes get lost in limbo)

  • John Kelly

    Some of the larger yards are probably unionized.

  • BBQman

    Indignant little rascals aren’t they! I deal with a few at work, it’s entertainment.

  • greghilbert

    Hi V4V, I was disturbed to see that a Popular Resistance moderator may be censoring criticism of pathetic Democrats and/or the loathed Hillary. I’d been hoping Popular Resistance was not just another pro-duopoly and leftist-censoring Truthdig, Common Dreams, or Alternet, and was assured by a moderator it wasn’t.

    To test that, allow me to add a few more condemnations of Dems: Bill the Betrayer Clinton gave us NAFTA, more prisons, deregulation, and a torn social safety net. Barack the Conman Obama gave us 8 more years of war, Drill Baby Drill and the Repub ACA, gave the banking cartel trillions and cabinet posts to its criminals, and tried to give us TTP after 10 million of us lost jobs, savings, insurance, and our homes. Warmongering identity politician Hillary Clinton hustled for banksters, TTP and the MIC, and gave us Trump. Babble for Billionaires Biden delivers 100,000 votes for Trump every time he speaks. I recall CB as a Clinton cultist on Truthdig.

  • greghilbert

    This Trump trolling GW denier is attracting his Trump cult followers like flies to the site. Asking him questions only begets more barbequed vomit.

  • catwoman 51

    Makes it ok to prioritize employment over life. You don’t know economic devastation will cause more death but it is an inflammatory statement.

  • Darrell benz

    The United States has lost its manufacturing and are pretty much dependent on other countries ; This is what the greedy corporations have done , the only thing the corporations wanted was cheap labor and high profits and screwed the American workers , well now we are paying for that greed ; we need to open up our manufacturing but one that is employee owned not by greedy corporations that got us into this mess .

  • Phil

    says the walking dead figurine who not only asked questions but engaged the same said fascistic bbq-nobody for a lot longer than anyone else on this thread.
    just be honest, just tell the rest of us we don’t deserve an opinion nearly as much as you do… instead of hiding behind the serious lame and blatantly hypocritical “don’t feed the troll” excuse.

  • greghilbert

    Wow, unwarranted and vicious overkill Phil. “Walking dead figurine”?, “Serious lame and blatantly hypocritical”? Grossly conflating what I said into something I neither said nor implied, neither to you nor to “the rest of us” that you presume to speak for but can’t, as if trying to muster resentment of a leftist is useful! And just to frost the cake, you told 3 lies. Three! I replied to him ONE time with a sentence of condemnation and short paragraph of fact with a link to documentation. I asked him no questions. He didn’t reply. I saw others engage with him several times and get bbq vomit for their trouble. Seeing you ask him a question, and get bbq vomit in reply, I meant to take your side and suggest further engagement would only get you more bbq vomit. And for that, at worst a failure to mind my own business or to be clearer as to my intent, you spew defamatory vomit at me. And troubled to downvote my condemnation of bbq! Wow. I don’t know if you are sick or what, puppy, but you couldn’t have made the bbq Trump troll happier if you’d tried..

  • Phil

    first, you did exactly what you accused me of doing, and then you set yoruself up as the master of the post! go be nasty somewhere else, and stop telling the rest of us how, when and why to post what we want. it’s called freedom of speech for a reason!!!!
    first amendment rights don’t just apply to nazis.

    ps… your ranting, at the wrong person again. check the guy in the mirror overexplaining what everyone else is doing wrong, instead of doing you!!

  • larrymotuz

    Great analogy!

  • Terri Lynn Sullivan

    The worst atrocity is our unhealthy mindset thinking there’s any reason to “send troops into war,” and the mototonous use of preachy political analogy of our nurses and doctors in the”frontlines.” These warlike words scare me far more than the virus itself. Which, ironically, originated from the destruction of biodiversity and ecosystem caused much by our horrific military industrial complex forever wars for profit to begin with.
    If we haven’t figured out by now the reason the USA can’t afford to take care of our nation’s nurses and doctors us directly due to wasting trillions on needless wars for 19 years straight, that’s our biggest pandemic. This virus has been contained in China, S. Korea, Venezuela band other nations with a more efficient public health services system than America’s for-profit healthcare business. Get it yet? Stop glorifying war.

  • James Nichols

    That makes no sense. There must be more to the story.