Economists In Support Of A Medicare For All Health Care System

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As economists, we understand that a single-payer “Medicare for All” health insurance system for the U.S. can finance good-quality care for all U.S. residents as a basic right while still significantly reducing overall health care spending relative to the current exorbitant and wasteful system. Health care is not a service that follows standard market rules. It should therefore be provided as a public good.

Evidence from around the world demonstrates that publicly financed health care systems result in improved health outcomes, lower costs, and greater equity. As of 2017, the U.S. spent $3.3 trillion annually on health care. This equaled 17 percent of U.S. GDP, with average spending at about $10,000 per person. By contrast, Germany, France, Japan, Canada, the U.K., Australia, Spain and Italy spent between 9 – 11 percent of GDP on health care, averaging $3,400 to $5,700 per person. Yet average health outcomes in all of these countries are superior to those in the United States. In all of these countries, the public sector is predominant in financing heath care.

For these reasons the time is now to create a universal, single-payer, Medicare for All health care system in the United States.

Public financing for health is not a matter of raising new money for healthcare, but of reducing total healthcare outlays and distributing payments more equitably and efficiently. Implementing a unified single-payer system would reduce administrative costs and eliminate individuals’ and employers’ insurance premiums and out-of-pocket costs. If combined with public control of drug prices and a dramatically simplified global budgeting system, a sensible Medicare financing system would reduce healthcare costs while guaranteeing access to comprehensive care and financial security to all.

As such, we support publicly and equitably financed health care through a Medicare for All system at the Federal level, as described in H.R. 1384 and S. 1129. We encourage Congress to move forward with implementing a public financed Medicare for All plan to achieve the equitable and affordable universal health care system that the American people need.

  • Infarction

    Just days before the ignominious resignation of President Richard Nixon on August 9, 1974, Republican Congressman Earl Landgrebe, disregarding mountains of evidence, staunchly defended the beleaguered president during the Watergate hearings. Landgrebe told the Senate committee, “Don’t confuse me with the facts; I’ve got a closed mind.”

    The same intransigence exists in the bought and paid for Congress and its masters in the health-care (sic) industry. All rational data shows not only does the US public overwhelmingly want single-payer, universal health care, but single-payer would also save billions of dollars and provide better outcomes.

  • Alienate

    My friends in the UK do not agree with you. They say people are dying while waiting to be seen or treated. And the reason the per person costs are low is because they DENY coverage for many things. This whole “economic” analysis of this article is full of shit.

  • AnotherNamVet

    “My friends in the UK…” Wow, niece piece of evidence full of empirical data to start and support your negative argument.

  • Alienate

    At least I have contacts on the ground. You have nothing except bitterness for a War that seems to have consumed you. You are free to leave the 60’s whenever you choose.

  • AnotherNamVet

    Contacts on the ground??? Does Theresa calls you from London for a daily morning brief or is it more like an informal evening chitchat session over wine, cheese and House of Commons foggy weather gossip? What a delusional self serving idiot you are…

  • Alienate

    Theresa Quit… Look, you seem to be a lonely tool of the state that wants low health care… Fine… Maybe Agent Orange fucked you up.. Sad. But I have info that says a single payer system can make things worse. You really believe Government gives a SHIT about you? You are fucked up. And I have a wonderful life to enjoy… So I’ll be saying “Good day, Sir!”

  • QuicoSabate

    “Contacts on the ground.” Yeah right, our man from MI6, fucking imbecile.

  • chetdude

    How much do “your friends in the UK” (or YOU for that matter) know about HR1384 – a significant improvement in coverage and funding compared to the NHS which has been starved by consecutive Tory and “New Labour” governments for decades and even includes improvements and expansion of coverage that our Canadian friends would love to have, hmmm?

    Here, let me help you out…

    HR1384 – Expanded and Improved Medicare for ALL Insurance

    1) Will cost less per year for all but the very rich.
    2) Includes dental and vision coverage as well as complete medical and drugs coverage.
    3) No Copays, No Deductibles, No “out of network”
    4) Covers you for EVERY doctor and Medical Facility
    5) Slashes drug prices – if the drug corporations don’t go along, can authorize generics to replace them.
    6) You have insurance from cradle to grave no matter who your employer is or whether you’re employed or not!
    7) Will change the goal of the “health care” system from providing profits for corporations to providing quality, accessible Health Care for everyone.
    8) If you get insurance through your employer, you can claw back the profits they’re spending on premiums as a raise in your salary.

  • chetdude

    My opposition to the USAmerican Plutocracy began during Vietnam in 1964 when I resigned from the military in disgust but includes the currently raging USAmerican Forever War against the People in the M.E. and Central and South America — I left the 60s in the 60s and unlike you live in 2019 and NOT in 1898…

  • chetdude

    You obviously have very bad, defective Intel on the best possible replacement for the corporate, for-profit remedial sick care industry, HR1384 – Expanded and Enhanced Medicare for All…

  • Jay Hansen

    Gosh, how unusual, a right wing ideologue putting words in the mouths of Brits. Never heard anything like that before, nosirree.

  • Alienate

    I know nothing about it. Thanks. Your first part shows what I have been saying: “decades of shit” (I paraphrase you) However, your HR1384 seems to be a future thing. “Will cost less”, etc. Has it passed? Has it been fully implemented? Can it be fucked over by future Changes? My sources tell me the fuckery is still present as we speak. True or false?

  • Jay Hansen

    What do governments do, fool? They guard ruling classes from the hoi polloi, us.

  • Alienate

    What does this have to do with anything? And 1898? You on crack?

  • Alienate

    Ha. Right wing! You are funny. Stupid people are stuck in the left/right BULLSHIT… Try to think outside your self imposed thought cage.

  • Jay Hansen

    If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it’s usually a duck, right, Daffy?

  • Alienate

    You make my point. Stuck in a BULLSHIT paradigm and then calling others dumb.

  • Jay Hansen

    Same goes for delusions, unfortunately for you.

  • Alienate

    And you are the greater Fool for thinking ANY government Program will be good for you.

  • Jay Hansen

    More muggery, thuggery, buggary, and Atlas Shruggery. Archetypal right wing.

  • Alienate

    Sorry, I can’t fix STUPID. You are just a variation on Stockholm Syndrome. Sad… Cya.

  • Jay Hansen

    You can’t fix stupid, but Betty White suggests numbing you with a two by four, troll.

  • Jay Hansen

    Needs “numbing” urgently in support of troll abatement.

  • Jay Hansen

    I make your point what? Sit on top of your head? Your point was always on top of your head; don’t blame me.

  • Alienate

    I appreciate your posting this info. While this bill may appear to answer all our health care woes in this country, I fail to see how it would ever be implemented anywhere near how it is currently written. The whole system we live in today is fucked. Government is the Fucker, they will not un-fuck the system that keeps them in power and controlling us thru programs that seem to answer our needs but don’t. This bill will never be implemented… So I don’t give much thought to it. Take care.

  • chetdude

    Over 75% of the USAmerican electorate wants it now.

    We need only mobilize a critical mass of those hundred and fifty million people to force Congress and the WH to pass it.

    Here’s the plan:

    1) Force the dems in the House to pass HR1384.
    2) The republican Senate will not even debate or vote on it.
    3) Run on HR1384 – Health Care for All in 2020 – take the Congress and WH
    4) Pass it and watch it signed into law by President Sanders, Gabbard or Warren in 2021.
    5) Get your “Medical Card” in 2023 — good anywhere care is delivered.

  • Alienate

    I’d say that over 75% of Americans want to never have to work for the man. Wanting something… is not enough. You need a system to deliver it that does not impinge on anyone’s natural rights. I saw nothing about who would pay for it. Now.. if it was tied to a bill that stops all USA terrorism around the world. Brought every American troop home. Stopped all arms sales. And used our existing tax structure (no raising of taxes) with the savings… you MIGHT have something good… I won’t be holding my breath. And with this being said.. I do not feel inclined to continue this thread. Good. Luck.

  • chetdude

    1898 marks the year when the USAmerican Empire went global with a vengeance…

    YOU brought up the American War of the 1960s…proving that you don’t know anything about that subject either…

  • chetdude

    Social Security has been VERY good for me…

    And Medicare has been better than the nothing I had before I reached age 65..

  • Alienate

    SSI is a Ponzi scheme that old farts like you and me take advantage of. It is a badly written law that favors us and fucks the young… Same with Medicare.. I love it… But it still is bad law.

  • chetdude

    So you’re willing to remain ignorant and at the complete mercy of a few corporations who run and profit from our expensive, 37th rate, remedial sick care system?

    Most USAmericans are for it. Our only task is to force the dems to pass HR1384 in the House before next year’s election then run on it in 2020, win in 2021 then force the Congress to pass it and President Sanders, Gabbard or Warren to sign it into law in 2021.

    Then in 2023, you’ll be dragged kicking and screaming and whining into a system that provides universal, improved and expanded care for less money…sorry.

    The f*ckery comes from our opponents among a few libertarian loons, the rump repulican party and corporate-vetted dem leadership.

  • chetdude

    Interesting characterizations for programs that are among the few that reflect respect for the elderly and the contributions we’ve made to the community over our lifetimes.

    What would you prefer?

    (I know and have often posted what I would prefer as an improvement)

  • Alienate

    The complete collapse of our civilization. And with that… I really do have to stop playing with this thread. I wish you the best, Chet.

  • Jay Hansen

    I have worked both for the US Government and a private corporation. The US Government was fairly top-heavy, but NOTHING by comparison to the private corporation. At the plant I worked at there were more managers than workers, AND it was the most viciously totalitarian workplace you could imagine….or perhaps not. Tyranny is not limited to government. The tyranny of government under capitalism is directly subservient to the tyranny OF capital itself.

  • chetdude

    So your screen name is descriptive?

    There’s another internet term for that.

    I’d like to invite you to become part of the solution instead…

  • chetdude

    Same to you… 😉

  • kevinzeese

    Actually, when studied and compared to the private insurance-based health care system and even Medicare, the VA is the best performing part of US healthcare. The problem is it is underfunded and the never-ending wars keep producing more wounded veterans without adequate funds to treat them.

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  • As I said: “It should be noted that the USA government ALREADY has COMPLETE CONTROL of the “health care” provided to veterans…”

  • “Prove” that YOUR proposed government run health care ideas really work…:

    —————> FIX VETERAN’S CARE FIRST!!

  • chetdude

    The VA is Socialist (Like Great Britain’s NHS) and has been seriously starved by decades of mainly republican Congressional neglect (just as the Tories and “New Labour” have starved the NHS)…

    C’mon this is the age of the internet and all of these facts are easily found if one extracts ones head out of the a** of the right-wing echo space…

  • chetdude

    Actually, the VA in Tucson, AZ is widely recognized as about the best health care in town. So it depends upon whose propaganda you’re relying on for “information” — and as I’ve said, the Socialist VA has been at the mercy of right-wing republican Congressional neglect for most of the last 2 decades along with having been totally overwhelmed by the (also neglected) logical byproduct of the meat grinder of the Forever War (gangsters for capitalism).

    EVERY other affluent nation has comprehensive, universal and less expensive CARE with better health outcomes than USAmerica – with greater government enforcement of systems of Health Care as a Human Right.

    USAmerica is the last major nation still tinkering with treating “health care” as a commodity whose primary purpose is providing ever-increasing quarterly corporate profits.

    HR1384 NOW…

  • Wags71

    You want proof that government does anything well? Well, you’re in for a long wait, unless you want to count drastically raising prices and handing out millions of jobs to people who don’t do anything useful.

  • chetdude

    TELL THE F*CKING REPUBLICANS IN THE SENATE AND THE A**HOLE IN THE WHITE HOUSE!!!!

  • chetdude

    I don’t have to, every other affluent nation already has…

  • chetdude

    I DON”T HAVE TO – EVERY AFFLUENT NATION ON EARTH ALREADY HAS!!!!

    And it’s your republican friends who have f*cked up the VA…

  • chetdude

    BECAUSE THEY’RE ALSO AT THE MERCY OF THE ENTIRE F*CKING FOR PROFIT SICK CARE SYSTEM THAT HR1384 WILL BEGIN REFORMING INTO A HEALTH CARE SYSTEM!!!!

  • chetdude

    The “government” is not in charge of the 37th rate sick care industrial complex — that’s a handful of greedy PRIVATE corporations.

    Go talk to them and your f*cked up republican friends who run Congress…

  • chetdude

    BINGO!!!!

    “The tyranny of government under capitalism is directly subservient to the tyranny OF capital itself.”

    And there’s no better example than the corporate crimes (for ever increasing quarterly profits) committed against those of us with Medicare, Medicaid or VA…

  • chetdude

    Binary nonsense…

    No wonder you remain willfully ignorant…

  • Are you now blaming VA problems on the private health care system?

    That is disingenuous! And YOUR solution is to destroy the private system with HR1384 or some other strangling rules and regulations so that VA starts to look good by comparison.

    (If you hate “THE ENTIRE F*CKING FOR PROFIT SICK CARE SYSTEM” so much, why not use the VA system or go to one of the socialized systems that you keep praising?)

  • kevinzeese

    The model is not the VA but improved Medicare for all. That is the most popular and successful part of US healthcare. The least effecive part of US healthcare and the most expensive is the insurance-based system. The VA is far superior and produces better results as less cost.

  • kevinzeese

    Social Security works. Medicare works. Medicaid works. Public transit and public roads work. Public universities work — I could go on but I think you get the point. Privatization is only good for the profit-makers not for the services.

  • Ahhh. The BLAME game. Instead of fixing the corrupt, VA system, blame it on anything else except for the fact that the government has complete control of the entire system.

  • If VA is so “far superior” then why not just let the hated “insurance based” private system collapse without regulating it into extinction? Open up the VA system to everyone and watch customers come running.

  • kevinzeese

    LOL They all work because government is less costly than private corporations. Government does not seek profit, it seeks providing services. The sales pitch for privatization has been a false one, as has been the rhetoric that government does not work.

    If you want no roads, police, fire, transit, schools or other government services — you can have no taxes. Go live on an island in solitary.

  • kevinzeese

    Collapse is the morons approach to policy, actually creating an efficient, less costly healthcare system that covers everyone is the way to proceed. And, the VA is not the model — improved Medicare for all is the model.

  • But..but…but..POLITICS is an integral part of a government run health care system!

  • The VA is a complete government run healthcare system from top to bottom.

    Medicare is merely a government run insurance system grafted onto a highly regulated “private” system.

  • kevinzeese

    Politics is part of an i surance-based health system. Insurance companies receive hundreds of billions in subsidies and corporations receive hundreds of billions in tax breaks for providing health insurance.

  • See, We are almost in agreement about something. “Politics is part of [The current USA] insurance-based health system”. And I fully agree with the rest of your post:

    Insurance companies receive hundreds of billions in subsidies and corporations receive hundreds of billions in tax
    breaks for providing health insurance.

    I wonder if you know that there is name for that system. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c3ac80bc565c4870284e1413ecc31c256413388bf00cbe2a65e9ce6e52802b69.gif
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  • chetdude

    Nope, only in corporate run remedial sick care systems like USAmerica’s…

  • chetdude

    REPUBLICAN dominated “government”…

    They pretend to “care about the troops” until those troops need health care — then it’s tough sh*t. The VA system is between the rock of the for profits remedial sick care and its limited, 2nd rate “education system” and infrastructure and greedy, stingy republican Congresses starving the system.

    I guess that greed and hypocrisy could be defined as the modern form of “politics” but it doesn’t fit the Webster’s Dictionary definition of the term.

  • chetdude

    I have personally received exceptional care, much better than the “care” in USAmerica in 2012 in a country with a vastly superior Socialist Health Care System. Alas, it’s too far away.

    My solution is to remove the leeches in private insurance corporations who deny care, block access to care, serve no useful therapeutic purpose and are unnecessary — HR1384 — and allow the rest of the privatized system – that’s left pretty much intact learn to reform from the goal of ever increasing insurance corporation profits into a Holistic, Comprehensive Health Care System.

    What’s YOUR solution, mr. tr*ll

  • The problems of the VA healthcare system are ONLY A PREVIEW of government healthcare for everyone.

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  • Ahh. Why did you resort to name calling?
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    It should be pretty obvious that government should not meddle in Healthcare and indeed the Constitution does NOT AUTHORIZE such government meddling. Government meddling in healthcare has caused the problems that government now pretends only it is capable of solving–in spite of the evidence offered by the failed VA system.

    Discussion ended because of childish name calling.

  • John C Carleton

    I watched the VA let a man die.
    He was in a VA hospital, and they just let him die by neglect.

    After my experiences with the VA, I will not allow a VA “doctor” to touch me.
    Told the wife, I will die in my bed at home, rather than be killed in a VA hospital by their “medical care”.