Above: An MSNBC appearance from 2011. Some viewers were disappointed to learn that the arrest referenced on screen was not in any way related to Kissinger.
And Now, a Word From Henry Kissinger…
And I’m going to say it up front, I don’t give advice obviously, I report on what others do. But I would send Henry Kissinger tonight to Moscow to talk to Putin and see what he can find out and decide where we should go from there.
The front page of USA Today (9/8/14) offered Kissinger’s thoughts on how to “dismantle” the Islamic State, wise words from the “nation’s senior foreign policy elder.”
The treatments of Kissinger are almost all notably positive. This isn’t anything new for elite media; consider Nightline host Ted Koppel’s praise from 1989, when memories of Kissinger’s record should have been fresh (Media Beat, 1/16/06):
“I’m proud to be a friend of Henry Kissinger. He is an extraordinary man. This country has lost a lot by not having him in a position of influence and authority.”
Koppel would say a few years later: “If you want a clear foreign-policy vision, someone who will take you beyond the conventional wisdom of the moment, it’s hard to do any better than Henry Kissinger.” Of course, a clear vision of Kissinger would help too. The record is well-documented, from backing a coup in Chile (“We will not let Chile go down the drain“) to supporting the dirty war in Argentina to Indonesia’s bloody campaign in East Timor.
.Kissinger is most closely associated with the wars in Vietnam and Cambodia. Of the latter, he famously delivered this order: “A massive bombing campaign in Cambodia. Anything that flies on anything that moves.” Credible estimates of the number of people killed as a result of this order range as high as 800,000.
Mr. Kissinger, every time we interview you, we hear from people who object, who say they have no interest in your opinion because of your role during the war in Vietnam, especially the bombing of Cambodia and Laos. How do you answer that?
It’s not an especially tough question, but you could sense Kissinger’s frustration. He made a rather astonishing claim–”I bet if one did an honest account, there are fewer civilian casualties in Cambodia than there have been from American drone attacks”–and then assured that the policies that he and others carried out were done “with anguish.” Simon’s follow-up: “Do you think Hillary Clinton would be a good president?” Asked about similar issues by USA Today, Kissinger waved them away: “That was 50 years ago. I’m now 91. And from that perspective, what you mentioned is not of any concern to me.” The interview that stands out for being exceptionally tough was on the public radio showThe Takeaway (9/9/14), where Todd Zwillich actually confronted Kissinger about his record. On the bombing of Cambodia, Kissinger claimed, “We bombed these areas that were largely uninhabited.” Which led to this:
Zwillich: Excuse me, sir. Uninhabited goes against the facts of history. There were hundreds of thousands of people killed in that campaign. Kissinger: Wait a minute. Ignorance is no excuse for being insulting. The bombing that people are talking about, that they’re criticizing the White House, was a 10-mile strip in which very few people were killed–if any.
It is difficult to imagine that Kissinger really believes that the US bombing of Cambodia possibly killed no one. What is clear is that Kissinger has contempt for even being asked about such matters:
I served in a difficult period of various wars in which we did the best we could to bring an end to the wars and begin a structure of peace. And really, for 50 years after, an interview that would spend this much time on this is outrageous.
Of Chile, Kissinger says it is
an issue that your audience cannot possibly know much about. This happened over 40 years ago, it has been exhaustively discussed. It is a reflection of a period in which the divisions in America were so great that opponents seemed to take a perverse pleasure in charging the people with whom they disagreed on other points with sort of criminal activities.
He is correct about one thing: Most Americans are probably unaware of this record. Not because it does not matter, but because the “elder statesman” who oversaw these policies is treated as some sort of oracle by elite media. A new collection of essays by Noam Chomsky includes one piece where he compares Kissinger’s frank admission about Cambodia–published years later in the New York Times (5/27/04)–to the crimes of official enemies like former Serbian leader Slobodan Milosevic:
Suppose, however, that someone were to unearth a document in which Milosevic orders the Serbian air force to reduce Bosnia or Kosovo to rubble, with the words “Anything that flies on anything that moves.” The prosecutors would be overjoyed, the trial would end, and Milosevic would be sent off to many successive life sentences for the crime of genocide–a death sentence, if it followed US conventions. One would, in fact, be hard put to find such an explicit order to carry out genocide–as the term is currently employed with regard to crimes of enemies–anywhere in the historical record. In this case, after casual mention in the world’s leading newspaper, there was no detectable interest, even though the horrendous consequences are well-known.