Saying ‘Hell No’ To Obamacare

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Note: I want to be clear that choosing not to participate in the ACA is an act of civil resistance that I personally chose to take. I am not asking others to do the same. This is a personal decision. You can read more about it here. -Margaret Flowers

Recently, Dr. Margaret Flowers initiated an online petition declaring herself a consciences objector to the Affordable Care Act and asking others to send a message to President Obama that the ACA is a scam.

In this short clip (above), Dr. Flowers states:
“The most important question we should be having right now, knowing that insurance is not protective, is do we want to continue to treat health care as a commodity and people only get what they can afford, or do we want to join the rest of the industrialized nations in the world and treat health care as a public good and create a system where people can get what they need.”

You can watch the full interview below:

Dr. Margaret Flowers (MFlowers8) is a pediatrician from Baltimore who is an organizer at PopularResistance.org, co-directs ItsOurEconomy.us and co-hosts Clearing the FOG on We Act Radio. She is adviser to the board of Physicians for a National Health Program and is on the steering committee of the Maryland Health Care is a Human Right campaign.

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  • il corvo

    What do health insurance corporations actually do? They pool money collected from the healthy to pay for health services for the ill plus take a percentage of those collected monies for themselves. They are a for profit coop. The less money they pay out for ill clients the more profit they make. What do they and their shareholder want, more profit. The insurance industry sells security for a price. The insurance industry never provides health care. The health insurance industry was establish during WWII as a perk for workers because wages were frozen. The insurance industry contrives to have health care costs rise tremendously because it then makes their industry a necessity not a job perk. In short, Health Insurance Corporations, provide no other services to their clients than to drive up health care costs, increase rates, deny claims wherever possible, and make tons of money. Any justification for their existence is just B.S.

  • weslen1

    HER conscience tells HER it’s in HER best interest to prevent poor people and people of color from having access to health care before they die? It’s in HER best interest to have servers in her favorite 4 star restaurant, sneezing and coughing on her food, because said server doesn’t have access to health care and would be fired if she/he asks for a day off OR wouldn’t be able to pay his/her RENT if even one hour is lost from their pay. Never mind the fact they have to SEE a doctor and get proof they were there and not out partying on the “company dime”.

    The word she was looking for is ( conscientious ), and a ( conscientious objector ) is ( One who on the basis of religious or moral principles refuses to bear arms or participate in military service. ) What YOU people are doing is the opposite of what you claim. Rather than refusing to kill others, YOUR “mission” is to MAKE SURE others DIE, JUST because they aren’t as RICH and privileged as you. Rather than refuse to “take up arms” YOU want kindergarteners “packing heat” in their backpacks, along with the apple for the teacher. What a sick bunch you anti-health care people are.

  • NOTgaltHouse

    Thank you, Dr. Flowers. Universal single payer health care, the only way to go.
    Obamacare is the best gift the insurance companies ever gave themselves.

  • Bruce 7

    “HELL YES” Impeach Obama!

  • Margaret Flowers

    I’m on your side. I don’t have health insurance. I am a full time activist, no longer practicing medicine. I’m not asking anyone to give up whatever coverage they have. What I do hope people will see is that the ACA is being portrayed as a solution but what it is actually doing is to destroy our public insurances and drive us to a completely privatized system. We will still see people with insurance who die because they can’t afford care or who go bankrupt when they get sick, who pay for insurance premiums and can’t afford the co-pays to get care. We will continue to see great disparities in health. We have to recognize this and fight for a real solution – single payer.

  • Tony Buontempo

    Obama care has helped some people, but it has done big business far more.

    A few friends who now can “afford” the human right of health care, also find it still expense and the quality of the health care, second class.

    Obama Care is nothing more than the corporate answer to the failed capitalist system. I still have friends who are sick and dying, and they still need a lot more.

    Obama care is the short term fix until the capitalist can figure out how to steal more of our money and provide us with less.

    We need single payer national health care and we need it NOW.

  • DoubleCheck

    As Wendell Potter observed, we should “disintermediate” these vampires who drain off 30% of our money to run a broken system.

  • Bruce 7

    Right On Honey!!! Lets IMPEACH OBAMA!

  • Margaret Flowers

    That won’t solve the problem. It’s the system, not the figurehead, that is the trouble.

  • kevinzeese

    Bizarre that Wendell Potter supported the further entrenchment of the insurance industry and the massive transfer of taxpayer wealth going into this corrupt industry that he used to be part of. It seems Potter is influenced by his ties to the Democratic Party in his analysis of Obamacare/ACA. I wish he was consistent in his opposition to insurance-based healthcare and opposed the ACA.

  • kevinzeese

    It is too bad the poor, whether of color or not, are stuck with terrible insurance, Medicaid. We all know it is inadequate, does not cover all aspects of healthcare and many doctors will not take Medicaid patients. Surely, you do not support inadequate, third-rate healthcare for the poor? We can certainly do better.

    By the way, Medicaid is also being taken over by the insurance industry. They will take 30% to 50% off the top for administration, making Medicaid even worse than it already is.

    The ACA is class-based healthcare. We need to rid the nation of this corruption and put in place healthcare as a human right, not a product for the privileged.

  • DoubleCheck

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  • kevinzeese

    I follow Potter very closely and he has been a consistent supporter of Obamacare, even exaggerating (in my opinion) its benefits and underplaying its significant failures. He says he supports single payer but I have not seen him do anything to advocate for it.

    It is ironic he has gone from being an insurance propagandists for CIGNA and has returned to insurance propaganda for Obama!

  • DoubleCheck

    So what would you have him do? Where do you find him most egregiously inappropriate?

  • kevinzeese

    Tell the truth:

    - The ACA was written by the insurance industry, for the insurance industry. And the former insurance executive who wrote it when she worked for the Finance Committee then moved to HHS when Obama hired her to write the regulations.
    - The insurance industry is gaming the system by charging more and providing less.
    - Insurance plans under the ACA are inadequate and result in under-insurance.
    - The insurance industry is putting major health centers out of network so people will have to pay the full cost of care at those centers.
    - The ACA is not a step forward, it is a step backward, as it entrenches an industry that is corrupt to the bone. As he knows, they will let people die rather than pay for healthcare.
    - The ACA is a plan developed by conservatives to prevent single payer; Obama adopted this pro-insurance, anti-public service approach to healthcare because they made large donations to his first presidential campaign. This is how the industry operates.

  • DoubleCheck

    Agreed.

  • BettyBenson

    You are absolutely right – but let’s be kind to President Obama. He tried his best to get health care for everyone and it is working although not ideal. The problem with our government is that Big Pharm and the Health Care Industry are extremely powerful – we all know that – and their Republican supporters have fought tooth and nail against any form of health care that will eat into their profits. Let’s be realistic – WE HAVE TO FIGHT MONEY IN POLITICS in order to get what we the people need and want. Unless we have term limits, restrictions on campaign donations by special interests, and regulatory curbs enacted we will NEVER get universal health care like other civilized countries.

  • BettyBenson

    Senator Bernie Sanders did it in Vermont using a loophole in the ACA. Let’s investigate how he did it! Better yet, he will be running for President in 2016 – Let’s all support him!

  • kevinzeese

    You are too kind to President Obama. He took $20 million from the healthcare profiteers in 2008 and gave them what they wanted, not what we needed. He has been a Wall Street Democrat his entire career in Washington, even before he was a candidate for president. The ACA is his plan — he got what he wanted, or what he promised his funders.

    Do not forget a form of the ACA was what Nixon proposed to block single payer in the early 70s. It is what the Heritage Foundation updated to block single payer when the pressure mounted in the 90s. And, it was supported by people like Newt Gingrich in those days. Then, Romney put it in place in Massachusetts when the pressure for single payer built there. Then, Obama did the same nationally — it is a rip-off, a massive transfer of wealth to Wall Street and the insurance industry that will promise worse healthcare for the rest of us. Obama did his job — he sold us out and knows he did it.

    But, you are right — it is a system-wide problem, Obama is just a cog in the system. He could have done much better to transform and challenge the system, instead he just went along with it. A missed opportunity. Obama should not be someone to be kind to — he sold us out (and he is doing it again with the end of net neutrality — he needs to be defeated this time).

  • BettyBenson

    Margaret Flowers has an agenda and it is demoinize President Obama. If she looked at the situation he is in trying to lead our country – the hatred and the obstructionism – about anything and everything he proposes, she would be giving him accolades for trying to better the lives of ordinary Americans instead of bashing him like all the rest of the people who hate him. No President in the history of our country has been subjected to the animosity this poor man has undergone as leader of our country. The majority voted for him and the sick, corrupted minority have villified him and fought against him from day one. May they all go down in history, every Republican and othe obstructionists, as blackguards and traitors to our Democracy.

  • kevinzeese

    Vermont does not have single payer and it did not pass single payer. It is working toward universal coverage but it will be a multi-payer system. Therefore it will not have all the cost savings of single payer. We’ll see, in 2017 Vermont, and other states, will be allowed to opt out of the ACA if they provide the equivalent coverage or better. It will be interesting — but it is not single payer.

  • weslen1

    Obama doesn’t need to be defeated this time. He cannot run again. What we need is to stop CNN from blocking the best candidates from the debates and only allowing their choices to participate, as they did in the last 2 races. Yes, Hillary did try to get health care for all while Bill was prez, but her idea wasn’t any better than the corporate friendly, corporate written, ACA. She wanted to force everyone into HMOs, at the very time they were being exposed as bad medicine, money pots for private gain and human loss.

  • kevinzeese

    The problem in presidential debates is the corporation with an official sounding name that is run by the Dems and Repubs — the National Commission on Presidential Debates. They are funded by business interests. CNN and other networks plays along and allows them to set the terms of the debates.

  • kevinzeese

    The sponsors of HR 676 were pretty weak during the ACA. The lead sponsor, John Conyers, led the way in selling us out.

    As to the CBO, there are very specific requirements to get a CBO score and since HR 676 is not moving forward they will not do a scoring.

  • Bruce 7

    I LOVE YOU! Thank you for all that you do and for being you. I Love who you are! Keep up the good work. Friend me on facebook?

  • weslen1

    Yes, that’s definitely part of the problem. The FCC could fix that, but they are on the side of those corporations and against the people as well. Now, the Roberts Court is about to rule that it is legal to deliberately LIE to and mislead the voters. No holds barred.

  • DoubleCheck

    What do you think about this article by Potter? He doesn’t sound much like an ACA propagandist here. Am I missing something?