The Case For Climate Rage

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“I barely know your kids and I feel like I would jump in front of a bus to stop this shit.”

  • voza0db

    Amy… I’m sorry to tell you, but you don’t LOVE your offspring. If you indeed LOVE them you wouldn’t had any. Very easy to understand.

    About this phrase:

    People in power have never willingly dismantled the systems that benefit them.

    If we, apparently, know this… why do we don’t ACT in conformity?

  • Linda Jansen

    Since we can’t stop global warming for one-half of humanity, we might have to stop it for everyone.

  • rgaura

    See Charles Eisenstein; Climate: A New View. Free online!

  • mwildfire

    This is rather offensive. Perhaps the author isn’t assuming worst-case scenarios in which nobody survives; and when Archie was born things didn’t look as grim as they do now. I think two kids is one too many for these times, but I don’t want humanity to die out entirely. Anyway, to instruct a mother that she doesn’t love her kids…well, that’s obnoxious.

  • Greeley Miklashek

    “It’s a lot of people,…, it’s…humanity”. The key phrase here is “when I was pregnant with my second child”, which demonstrates straight up just how clueless this author really is. “Playing the blame game” to shift responsibility onto the “Patriarchy” is dishonest, but what’s new? Blaming Primates for being Primates! The truth is: Too many humans are using too many natural resources and producing too much pollution.

    TOO MANY HUMANS is the core problem we can solve in just a few generations of one or no child “families”. We are clan/band-living social animals and have been clinging to our life-raft “nuclear families” since we were expelled from a massively over-crowded Europe and Africa, but our actual social support system for two million years is the clan/band, in which one-child families were the norm, as regular migration with the seasons demanded.

    Do you really give a damn about your children’s future or our precious planet and its entire biome? Then we need to limit our reproduction to one child or no child FOR THEIR SAKE. The alternative is that we continue to reproduce 230,000 new copies of ourselves PER DAY and destroy what’s left of Mother Nature in our selfish, seemingly endless greed.

    My lifetime of medical practice and research has driven me to the inevitable conclusion that population density stress is killing us NOW, through ALL of our modern “diseases of civilization”, none of which are to be found among our traditional living contemporary hunter-gatherer clans/bands. Want to watch our offspring get sick and die? Just keep having that second, or third, or…child in a world already 3,000 times more populous than it was 7-12kya before the “agricultural revolution”, let alone the “Industrial Revolution” fired by fossil fuels.

    I have been on this campaign now for a decade and can only hope that we wake-up before it’s too late. But my optimism is waning with each new human birth, as we selfishly expand into the few remaining biomes to fuel our short-sighted greed. Prove me wrong and give me hope, again, or watch your offspring perish before your eyes from the so appropriately named “diseases of civilization”. Stress R Us

  • voza0db

    Offensive is to bring offspring into this absolute misery, divisions, conflicts, pain and so on an say that “I love my child”!

    But never mind what I say…

  • Your tirade is counterproductive. Two children means a gentle decline in population.

    It has been known for over a century that education and a secure home leads to the slowly declining population that capitalism cannot tolerate. Thus policies like school privatization and eternal war are bipartisan policies to destabilize and create population growth and a secure future for capitalism..

  • Greeley Miklashek

    So says the fellow who produced a fine comment in response. Pretty “productive” I’d say. BTW, a worldwide fertility of 2 keeps the population growing toward an inevitable collapse by 2,100; it’s called population momentum. Good luck with that.

  • Your math does not hold up. Two parents with two children is zero growth assuming both children survive to childbearing age.

    An old Iranian saying about controlling population growth worked until disrupted by war; “None is fine, one is good, two is okay and three is not a crime.

  • Greeley Miklashek

    So, you are neither a mathematician nor a demographer, but full of unfounded opinions none the less. I can’t help you. Good luck!

  • Linda Jansen

    Here’s what Charles Eisenstein has on the Amazon fires: https://charleseisenstein.org/video/amazon-rainforest-fires-avoid-this-trap/

  • Mensch59

    I’ll happily “never mind” what you and other misanthropes write to and about mothers.

  • voza0db

    “Mother” is the wrong qualifier. Be more REALISTIC and less moralistic.

  • Mensch59

    Perhaps either English isn’t your first language or you don’t understand English grammar or both, but as I used the phrase “what you… write to and about mothers” mothers is NOT a qualifier.
    It’s the subject matter of you writing to the author “Amy… I’m sorry to tell you, but you don’t LOVE your offspring. If you indeed LOVE them you wouldn’t had any.”
    You telling the author that she doesn’t love her children puts you in the company of modern day Hitlerites in terms of your verbally abusive and misanthropic behavior.
    Try being more realistic behaviorally instead of violently judgemental.

  • sabelmouse

    as with all pop it’s not the number but the lifestyle.

  • sabelmouse

    don’t worry, not planning to mind what you say.

  • D Turgeon

    Complete nonsense. The world needs more anger, not less, against the people who are hell bent on destroying the planet for human habitation. All of the organizations and systems which are responsible for the climate crisis, and for the lack of a credible response to it, are run by people. Those people deserve our hatred and scorn; without it, no substantive change will occur. Get your hate on people! Rage, rage against the dying of the planet!

  • voza0db

    Not worried at all… I even appreciate it.

  • voza0db

    You “people” really have a problem with words!

    She doesn’t qualify to be that! Simple enough for you?

    You reject the Reality I point to, and on the other hand you are suggesting me to be more “realistic”! That’s funny.

  • larrymotuz

    I find it very odd that ‘greening’ should not begin with the military, perhaps the largest promoter and user of fossil fuels on the planet. Warren is not wrong in highlighting that reality and wishing to correct it.

  • Mensch59

    Only a deranged troll would write that the author of this article doesn’t qualify to be a mother.
    No wonder you put “people” in quotes.
    You sickos just love dehumanizing humans.

  • This was a good read, thank you Amy.

  • voza0db

    I need you to define what you think “Human” is, or what it means?!

  • Mensch59

    Why ought I define “human” to someone who writes “Amy… I’m sorry to tell you, but you don’t LOVE your offspring. If you indeed LOVE them you wouldn’t had (sic) any”?

  • voza0db

    You can end this conversation any time you want… Just don’t refer to qualifiers that do not correspond to Reality!

  • Mensch59

    I don’t believe that you have any clue about “Reality” any more than you have any aversion to dehumanizing humans.

  • voza0db

    Again… I’m not deumanizing umans! I’m just describing what we do and are.

    If you don’t like Reality try to evolve.

  • Mensch59

    Liar. Your comment to Amy, the author of this essay we’re discussing, is NOT “just describing what we [humans] do and are.”
    That you must lie in order to present your perspective only demonstrates how un-evolved you are and how divorced from reality you are.

    Why don’t you simply behave responsibly and apologize for writing that Amy doesn’t love her children?

  • voza0db

    Again… If Amy, or any other uman animal on this Lovely Civilization we’ve ALL helped to build, truly LOVES their offspring, they won’t have any.

    Your brain is just running the programming embed by so many dogmas and delusions that it’s quite a sight to read the stuff you write!

  • Mensch59

    Any jerk who writes what you just did need not be taken seriously.
    Good thing that you can write anonymously from a computer.
    If you said such a thing openly in public, you’d be mocked like the misanthrope you are.
    It’s a pity your mother gave birth to you.
    Maybe trolls are hatched.

  • voza0db

    Well… I say that publicly and never got mocked! The only reaction I observe is smoke coming out from the ears! A clear sign the brain just went off…

    I can only conclude that if you also have offspring you also do not LOVE them.

  • Mensch59

    Your conclusion are as fcked up as your assumptions.
    Enjoy your idiocy, pos.

  • voza0db

    As usual… uman animals flee REALITY.

  • Seems like a bit of proof is needed here. I can’t tell. You may be using some sort of mechanical physics model applied to an abstract representation that assumes 50/50 male/female and every couple will have two children.