The #ClimatePresident Action Plan: 10 Steps For The Next Administration’s First 10 Days

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Note: Popular Resistance joined with more than 500 organizations to urge the next president to take the ten actions listed below to confront the climate crisis in the first ten days after taking office. You can help promote these actions by using the tools in this digital tool kit. KZ

The United States faces an indisputable climate emergency. The solution to the crisis is also inarguable: We must transform our extractive economy to a regenerative and inclusive one.

The actions called for in this Presidential action plan can be implemented by the President acting alone without any Congressional action. These ten actions form the necessary foundation for the country’s true transformation to a safer, healthier, and more equitable world for everyone.


1. Declare a national climate emergency under the National Emergencies Act

This step will communicate the urgency of the climate crisis and unlock specific statutory powers to help accomplish the necessary response. Reinstate the crude oil export ban and promote rapid clean energy development per emergency powers; all other actions in this plan can be accomplished under the President’s regular executive powers. Direct relevant federal agencies to reverse all Trump administration executive climate rollbacks and replace with sufficiently strong action as described below.

2. Keep fossil fuels in the ground

End new fossil fuel leasing and development approvals, ban fracking, and commit to a plan to phase out existing extraction:

  • Issue an Executive Order directing the Secretary of the Interior to immediately halt all fossil fuel lease sales and permits, phase out existing extraction, and ban fracking on federal lands and waters under existing resource extraction laws.
  • Issue an Executive Order directing the EPA Administrator to issue a stringent pollution prevention rule for the oil and gas sector, effectively stopping fracking and other ultra-hazardous and energy-intensive extraction methods everywhere.
  • Commit to work with federal agencies, states, and Congress to complete a plan to phase out all U.S. fossil fuel extraction over the next several decades.
3. Stop fossil fuel exports and infrastructure approvals
  • Issue an Executive Order immediately re-instituting the crude oil export ban.
  • Issue an Executive Order halting gas exports to the fullest extent allowed by the Natural Gas Act.
  • Issue an Executive Order directing all federal agencies to deny permits for new fossil fuel infrastructure projects, including but not limited to pipelines, import and export terminals, storage facilities, refineries, and petrochemical plants, consistent with the science demonstrating that any such projects are incompatible with limiting temperature rise to below 1.5°C.
4.  Shift financial flows from fossil fuels to climate solutions

Issue an Executive Order directing actions to promote investments in climate solutions instead of dirty fossil fuels, including:

  • Establishing a new mandate for the Federal Reserve and Secretary of the Treasury to manage climate risk
  • Urging the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) to mandate corporate disclosure of material risks related to the climate crisis in SEC filings, including disclosure of asset retirement obligations
  • Directing the Department of Energy to end all loan and guarantee financing programs for fossil fuels
  • Abolishing the Department of Energy’s Office of Fossil Energy
  • Directing the State Department, U.S. Treasury, U.S. Export-Import Bank, and U.S. Development Finance Corporation to prohibit any U.S. government financing to fossil fuel projects and related infrastructure overseas
  • Directing all federal agencies to ensure that polluters who enter into settlements in connection with corporate wrongdoing are not able to deduct the payments from their taxes, thereby stopping the shift of a significant portion of the burden onto taxpayers.
5. Use the Clean Air Act to set a science-based national pollution cap for greenhouse pollutants. Then, use all Clean Air Act programs to drive emissions towards zero economy-wide
  • Issue an Executive Order directing the EPA to designate greenhouse pollutants as criteria air pollutants and set a science-based national pollution cap (National Ambient Air Quality Standard, or NAAQS) under the Clean Air Act. The science-based target is essential to unlock the full power of the Clean Air Act and ensure that the overall climate action plan will succeed.
  • Direct the EPA to issue strict Clean Air Act rules to rapidly reduce greenhouse emissions from power plants, motor vehicles, airplanes, ships and trains, including implementing a ban on the sale of all new fossil fuel vehicles by 2030.
6. Power the electricity sector with 100% clean and renewable energy by 2030 and promote energy democracy
  • Pursuant to the National Emergencies Act, issue an Executive Order directing the Secretary of Defense to redirect a portion of military spending to carry out a rapid construction program of renewable energy projects to meet a significant portion of the nation’s power needs. The program shall prioritize photovoltaic solar installations built on already existing structures, and well-managed wind and PV solar installations and battery storage sited on already-degraded environments — and in doing so, generate a substantial number of new family-sustaining jobs.
  • Pursuant to emergency powers, provide critical loan guarantees:
    • To clean energy developers, including communities and cooperatives, to help cover upfront costs for new renewable generation;
    • To building and home owners for building electrification, weatherization, and energy efficiency upgrades; and
    • To compel utilities to transform the egregiously-outdated and unsafe grid system with technologies that are aligned with a resilient, decentralized, and modern energy system.
  • Issue an Executive Order directing the Rural Utility Service to purchase stranded fossil fuel assets of rural cooperatives and municipal power providers on terms that would commit the cooperatives and providers to 100% solar and wind generation by 2030.
  • Direct the Department of Energy to rapidly shift and expand existing federal energy financing programs to prioritize funding for clean energy projects (e.g. distributed and community solar) and alternative energy governance models (e.g. worker-owned cooperatives and community choice aggregation) in communities that are disproportionately harmed by the dirty energy economy. All actions should be designed to ensure that energy burdens for low- and middle-income communities are lowered, and the President should direct the Department of Commerce and other relevant agencies to implement policies that protect against any inadvertent energy price hikes.
7. Launch a just transition to protect our communities, workers, and economy

Issue an Executive Order creating an inter-agency just transition task force with a deadline of six months to create a comprehensive, multi-industry, national program that guarantees support and protection for affected communities and workers.

The task force must meaningfully consult with unions, workers, Indigenous Peoples, and frontline community organizations, and include the EPA, Departments of Labor, Energy, Transportation, Housing and Urban Development, Commerce, Interior, Defense, and other relevant agencies

8. Advance Climate Justice: Direct federal agencies to assess and mitigate environmental harms to disproportionately impacted Indigenous Peoples, People and Communities of Color, and low-wealth communities
  • Issue an environmental justice Executive Order that strengthens Executive Order 12898 by directing federal agencies to:
    • Pro-actively “mitigate,” instead of only to “identify and address,” disproportionate health and environmental impacts of their programs on Indigenous Peoples, low-income and low-wealth communities, and people and communities of color
    • Use geographic, socioeconomic, and environmental hazard metrics when identifying environmental justice communities.
  • Direct the Department of Treasury, Health and Human Services, and the Attorney General to commence a study for mitigation and payment of damages to those deliberately and disproportionately exposed to and harmed by fossil fuel pollution and toxins.
  • Direct the Department of Justice to institute rules to protect the rights of individuals protesting climate and environmental harms, including from extreme prosecution and disproportionate sentencing for such persons.
  • Issue an Executive Orderdirecting the Departments of Justice and Interior to investigate and, as appropriate, seek damages and restoration from fossil fuel industry actors found responsible for damages to public lands and waters, including the Gulf of Mexico.
  • Reverse all harmful and unethical Trump immigration directives and issue a cross-agency directive to respond to and absorb the growing number of climate-displaced persons who are impacted by extreme weather events and other climate impacts. The new system must preserve the human rights, health, safety, and dignity of all persons affected by climate-induced migration and displacement.
9. Make polluters pay: Investigate and prosecute fossil fuel polluters for the damages they have caused. Commit to veto all legislation that grants legal immunity for polluters, undermines existing environmental laws, or advances false solutions
  • Direct the Attorney General to investigate all legal violations by fossil fuel polluters and prosecute them to the maximum extent of the law, including by supporting the “nuisance” and “fraud” suits brought by more than a dozen local and state governments against fossil fuel producers for the damages they have caused. Like asbestos, tobacco and opioid manufacturers, the fossil fuel industry had long-standing knowledge of the risks associated with their products; rather than taking steps to prevent climate change, the industry took action to conceal and deny that knowledge and discredit climate science, in contradiction to their own internal research and the actions they took to protect their assets from climate impacts.
  • Commit to veto all legislation that grants legal immunity to polluters from nuisance and other climate claims, or that rolls back existing laws like the Clean Air Act, such as the “Baker-Shultz Carbon Dividend Plan” advanced by the oil-industry led Climate Leadership Council.
  • Commit to reject and to veto all other false solutions proposed by the polluters that have created and perpetuated the climate crisis including:
    • Market-based mechanisms and emissions trading schemes such as offsets which have proven both to be ineffective and to have harmful consequences, such as concentrating pollution in already overburdened environmental justice communities;
    • Technology options such as carbon capture and storage and the use of captured carbon for enhanced oil recovery, which perpetuate fossil fuel extraction and create new public dangers;
    • Biomass energy which increases carbon pollution per unit of energy and incentivizes clearcutting and other harmful forestry practices;
    • Waste-to-energy which similarly does not reduce greenhouse pollution and increases dangerous air pollution, usually in already overburdened environmental justice communities; and
    • Nuclear power which creates severe safety, health, proliferation, and waste disposal issues and is far more expensive than new clean and renewable energy. These corporate schemes all share the common characteristic that they place corporate profits over community well-being and perpetuate the many systemic injustices that have led to the climate emergency.
10. Rejoin the Paris Agreement and lead with science-based commitments that ensure that the United States, as the world’s largest cumulative historical emitter, contributes its fair share and advances climate justice

Vastly increase the United States’ emissions reduction commitment (Nationally Determined Contribution) to slash U.S. greenhouse emissions below 2005 levels by at least 70% by 2030 and reduce them to near zero by 2040 — in line with what science, equity, and climate justice demand. Include deadlines to halt all oil, gas, and coal production in the U.S. commitment and ensure that future agreements set limits on fossil fuel production consistent with meeting the 1.5°C target.

The actions in this report will form the backbone of the plan to achieve this commitment. However, because these domestic reductions alone are insufficient to fulfill the U.S. fair share of global climate action, the President must leverage their full executive authority and work with Congress to appropriate funds for large-scale financial and technological support to enable poorer countries to reduce their own emissions, as well as to support crucial adaptation measures so that vulnerable communities can survive the climate disruption already underway.

  • voza0db

    Point 1. is… well, POINTLESS!

    Point 2. “ Keep fossil fuels in the ground”… It seems clear that those proposing such “climate president action plan” do not know that it’s NOT POSSIBLE to build solar panels and wind generators and power cables and ALL the rest of the hardware needed without fossil fuels.

    So… In order to save time, I’ve stopped reading at this point.

  • It’s already been worked out on paper. All we have to do is build it. THere is a steel company coming into Missouri that will be all renewable energy. It’s already being done.

  • voza0db

    That’s supposed to be a joke, right?!

  • voza0db

    Ok… Another [fake]renewable funny dude!

    Lets go then!

    Clearly you are unable to understand that simple statement. I repeat it:
    it’s NOT POSSIBLE to build solar panels and wind generators and power cables and ALL the rest of the hardware needed without fossil fuels.

    I’m now just going to leave here a very small fraction of what is needed to build a single solar panel, and currently (it seems clear that the so called “climate emergency” is happening TODAY, and not in the future so paper ideas won’t do much!) there is NO SUBSTITUTES for materials made from fossil fuels derivatives.

    Let the FUN BEGIN!

    Raw Materials
    The basic component of a solar cell is pure silicon, which is not pure in its natural state.
    To make solar cells, the raw materials—silicon dioxide of either quartzite gravel or crushed quartz—are first placed into an electric arc furnace, where a carbon arc is applied to release the oxygen. The products are carbon dioxide and molten silicon. At this point, the silicon is still not pure enough to be used for solor cells and requires further purification.
    To make solar cells, the raw materials—silicon dioxide of either quartzite gravel or crushed quartz—are first placed into an electric arc furnace, where a carbon arc is applied to release the oxygen. The products are carbon dioxide and molten silicon. At this point, the silicon is still not pure enough to be used for solor cells and requires further purification.
    Pure silicon is derived from such silicon dioxides as quartzite gravel (the purest silica) or crushed quartz. The resulting pure silicon is then doped (treated with) with phosphorous and boron to produce an excess of electrons and a deficiency of electrons respectively to make a semiconductor capable of conducting electricity. The silicon disks are shiny and require an anti-reflective coating, usually titanium dioxide.

    The solar module consists of the silicon semiconductor surrounded by protective material in a metal frame. The protective material consists of an encapsulant of transparent silicon rubber or butyryl plastic (commonly used in automobile windshields) bonded around the cells, which are then embedded in ethylene vinyl acetate. A polyester film (such as mylar or tedlar) makes up the backing. A glass cover is found on terrestrial arrays, a lightweight plastic cover on satellite arrays. The electronic parts are standard and consist mostly of copper. The frame is either steel or aluminum. Silicon is used as the cement to put it all together.

  • voza0db


    The Manufacturing Process

    Purifying the silicon

    1- The silicon dioxide of either quartzite gravel or crushed quartz is placed into an electric arc furnace. A carbon arc is then applied to release the oxygen. The products are carbon dioxide and molten silicon. This simple process yields silicon with one percent impurity, useful in many industries but not the solar cell industry.
    2- The 99 percent pure silicon is purified even further using the floating zone technique. A rod of impure silicon is passed through a heated zone several times in the same direction. This procedure “drags” the impurities toward one end with each pass. At a specific point, the silicon is deemed pure, and the impure end is removed.

    Making single crystal silicon

    3- Solar cells are made from silicon boules, polycrystalline structures that have the atomic structure of a single crystal. The most commonly used process for creating the boule is called the Czochralski method. In this process, a seed crystal of silicon is dipped into melted polycrystalline silicon. As the seed crystal is withdrawn and rotated, a cylindrical ingot or “boule” of silicon is formed. The ingot withdrawn is unusually pure, because impurities tend to remain in the liquid.

    Making silicon wafers

    4- From the boule, silicon wafers are sliced one at a time using a circular saw whose inner diameter cuts into the rod, or many at once with a multiwire saw. (A diamond saw produces cuts that are as wide as the wafer—. 5 millimeter thick.) Only about one-half of the silicon is lost from the boule to the finished circular wafer—more if the wafer is then cut to be rectangular or hexagonal. Rectangular or hexagonal wafers are sometimes used in solar cells because they can be fitted together perfectly, thereby utilizing all available space on the front surface of the solar cell.
    After the initial purification, the silicon is further refined in a floating zone process. In this process, a silicon rod is passed through a heated zone several times, which serves to ‘drag” the impurities toward one end of the rod. The impure end can then be removed. Next, a silicon seed crystal is put into a Czochralski growth apparatus, where it is dipped into melted polycrystalline silicon. The seed crystal rotates as it is withdrawn, forming a cylindrical ingot of very pure silicon. Wafers are then sliced out of the ingot.
    After the initial purification, the silicon is further refined in a floating zone process. In this process, a silicon rod is passed through a heated zone several times, which serves to ‘drag” the impurities toward one end of the rod. The impure end can then be removed.
    Next, a silicon seed crystal is put into a Czochralski growth apparatus, where it is dipped into melted polycrystalline silicon. The seed crystal rotates as it is withdrawn, forming a cylindrical ingot of very pure silicon. Wafers are then sliced out of the ingot.
    5- The wafers are then polished to remove saw marks. (It has recently been found that rougher cells absorb light more effectively, therefore some manufacturers have chosen not to polish the wafer.)

  • Leaving out the link to speed up conversation. Same wiki source as my previous post on EROEI. THis is where the win takes place in providing energy. AN eroi of 8.7 to 34.2, means that at a minimum, this is an acceptable return on energy. Compare the max for oil sand at 5.23 and the min. for solar is 8.7, plus the large reduction costs in solar,, it’s now a no brainer.

    Oil sands
    Because much of the energy required for producing oil from oil sands (bitumen) comes from low value fractions separated out by the upgrading process, there are two ways to calculate EROEI, the higher value given by considering only the external energy inputs and the lower by considering all energy inputs, including self generated. One study found that in 1970 oil sands net energy returns was about 1.0 but by 2010 had increased to about 5.23.[13][clarification needed]


    Climate change could wipe $2.3 trillion off global stocks
    Anneken Tappe
    By Anneken Tappe, CNN Business

    Updated 2:13 PM ET, Mon December 9, 2019
    This concrete can trap CO2 emissions
    THe world is more aware now of the harm that climate change is doing now and will do in the future. This is the samrt thing to do.

  • voza0db

    I don’t see any problem in a wipe off of (at least) $2.3 trillion…

    When we write “the world” what do you mean? The entire world population?

  • voza0db

    Oil sands?!?!?

    I thought we’re talking about solar panels and the materials they need to be built that are fossil fuel sub-products!

  • The world economy. Possibly you don’t understand the connection of the more we pollute carbon into the atmosphere, the more we warm the earth, the more the economy is hurt by the warming.

  • voza0db

    You’re confusing “economy” with “financial markets”. One as nothing to do with the other!

    I do hope you start to improve the level of your comments. They don’t sound very “renewable” friendly.

  • kevinzeese

    Financial markets have nothing to do with the economy — really?

    It would be wise for those who have invested in fossil fuels and nuclear energy to remove those investments before they become stranded assets. There are many positive areas where investments are needed for a clean and renewable energy future. Many sectors of the economy, e.g. housing, transit, energy, finance, education, agriculture will need to be transformed in upcoming decades to confront the climate crisis.

  • voza0db

    I’m not surprised with your opinion!

    The only connection between financial markets and the economy is that the 1st destroys the 2nd.

    I guess you weren’t paying much attention to what your friends on occupy wall street were shouting!

  • Does the stock market affect the economy?
    How the Economy Affects the Stock Market. Stock prices rise in the expansion phase of the business cycle. … Since the stock market is a vote of confidence, a crash can devastate economic growth. Lower stock prices mean less wealth for businesses, pension funds, and individual investors.

    Stocks and the economy have a relationship. Seperate no. There is a work around on things to keep your stocks safer.

  • I think you need a little more education there fella. You don’t seem to have evidence backing up your points very well on here.

  • kevinzeese

    I was an organizer of Occupy and we were very critical of financial markets role in the economy. They have a dominant and abusive role. It needs to change, but right now Wall Street dominates the economy and political system.

    We would not have complained about financial markets if it were not for their role in the economy.

    It is silly to say finance has nothing to do with the economy. You were just playing the usual negative role you play in most of your comments, this time you embarrassed yourself with an absurd comment.

    Now, you are digging in and not backing down. I suggest either silence or admitting you made an error.

  • voza0db

    Again you cannot be a defender of action to Tackle Climate Change and at the same time be worried about “economic growth” of “financial markets” growth!

    But it seems you aren’t really that worried about that…

  • voza0db

    Evidence for what?

  • voza0db

    “but right now”… Please! Financial Markets are always one level above the Economy.

    Financial Markets don’t care about the Economy! They only talk about the Economy and remember it exists when they need to Extract (more)Wealth from it.

    You keep making the same erroneous assumptions!

  • I’m talking about energy. What source of energy do want to have. EROI is one the measurements of, can we run our world economy on this. Tar Sands uses a lot of natural gas to make and they litteraly turn it into oil first before they can make products to burn.

  • Really? That is what science does and even arguing in court or other avenues. Need some practice there fella.

  • voza0db

    There are many small signs of what I stated.

    “IPCC Recommends Economy Overhaul, Markets Don’t Care (Yet)

    This week’s United Nations global warming report should’ve caused an uptick in the stocks of solar and wind energy companies. So why didn’t it?”

    The “yet” part is the FUN part, because only when the “Financial Markets” see that they can start making trillions from the Fake Green Economy they will start the transfer of wealth once again!

    And is truly admirable to see someone from “popular resistance” defending “Financial Markets” and its role in the Economy and in the eventual mitigation of “Climate Change”!

  • voza0db

    Once again… You want evidence of what? What did I wrote that needs to be backed by evidence?!

  • voza0db

    What source of energy do want to have.

    Do you want to keep the present level of CONSUMPTION?

    Are you talking only about the US?

  • voza0db

    And why are my comments marked as “spam”?

  • RE is an economic engine now. More jobs in RE than in fossil fuels.

  • It may be Disqus doing that. I asked on a different site that I had been marked as spam. He said he didn’t know why.

  • When you said there is no connection between the economy and stocks. I used a source and you didn’t.

  • voza0db

    I wrote TOO MUCH! Disqus “thinks” long comments are always SPAM!

    But the censors rarely – if ever – correct the situation!

  • voza0db

    That’s a total different point!

    Present day “Financial Markets” cannot be used to help fight “Climate Change”. Assuming otherwise is just plain innocence.

  • Should we even stay a consumption economy? I see the circular economy being discussed. We all want things, no doubt. But when are you satisfied? How much more do you really need to have a good life.

    We will have 9 to 10 billion people on earth later in the century. How much resources should the poor have?

    What does a circular economy mean?
    A circular economy (often referred to simply as “circularity”) is an economic system aimed at eliminating waste and the continual use of resources. … This regenerative approach is in contrast to the traditional linear economy, which has a ‘take, make, dispose’ model of production.
    Circular economy – Wikipedia

  • voza0db

    I wrote about that after! Only connection exists when Financial Markets needs to be bailed out or want to extract more wealth for the Economy.

  • kevinzeese

    Right now financial markets are a drag on confronting climate change. Investors are spending on fossil fuel infrastructure, export of fracked gas and counterproductive measures. That is why one of the things that will have to transform in order to confront climate change is how the economy if financed. That means that there needs to be financing in the public interest, that includes a combination of public banks and the government taking back its constitutional power to create money. The power to create money, you could call it the Greenbacks Model, since that is what Lincoln did. Finance for the public interest and democratizing the money supply would be very positive changes for confronting climate but also other areas where there is a lack of funding.

  • voza0db

    You’re always jumping from one point to another!

    Since you were talking about “energy” I was asking CONSUMPTION of energy!

    Again… The US last year consumed ~29.7 trillion kWh of energy. Is this to be maintained?

  • voza0db

    So… In the end you are agreeing with me! Funny isn’t it?!

    Economy financing doesn’t need Financial Markets existence AT ALL!

    We even know why… “Public Banks”! So I guess we can let it at this… In this part of the Planet is SLEEP TIME… Tomorrow modern slavery awaits!

    Have a Good rest of day and until next time.

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    4 billion gw-hrs in 2017 There is plenty of room for more production

  • That is an opinion.

  • Investing in RE. Seems pretty doable to me.

  • The world.

  • You don’t even read or study. A little low on substance and high on bluff. Better luck next time.

  • voza0db

    Everything is an opinion!

  • voza0db

    Do you want to reduce energy production from the current ~29.7 trillions kWh and just run on those ~4 billions GWh from renewables?

  • kevinzeese

    Some opinions are backed up by facts, other opinions are so absurd is not to be taken seriously, e.g. finance has nothing to do with the economy. That is a laugh-out-loud statement of nonsense.

  • So you just think it can’t be done?

    1 hour of sunlight hitting the earth is enough to power the world for a year.

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    In a single hour, the amount of power from the sun that strikes the Earth is more than the entire world consumes in an year. To put that in numbers, from the US Department of Energy: Each hour 430 quintillion Joules of energy from the sun hits the Earth. That’s 430 with 18 zeroes after it!Sep 29, 2015

  • landartgeneratororgblagiarchives127

    There is plenty of space on earth to provide the energy we need.

    The Saharan Desert is 9,064,958 square kilometers, or 18 times the total required area to fuel the world.

    By another measure, “the unpopulated area of the Sahara desert is over 9 million km², which if covered with solar panels would provide 630 terawatts total power. The Earth’s current energy consumption rate is around 13.5 TW at any given moment (including oil, gas, coal, nuclear, and hydroelectric).” This measure arrives at a multiplier of 46 times the area needed and shows that my numbers are very conservative.

  • Is gravity an opinion?

  • voza0db

    Yes! Al very nice and old known numbers…

    Reality remains the same.

    So, it seems that you want to keep the present level of energy production/consumption, so the only question to ask you is:

    What is the time frame you believe a transition to 100% renewables production can be achieved?

  • voza0db

    That’s just your opinion…

    But don’t forget that in the end you went for the same nonsense opinion!

  • voza0db

    You want to produce energy in the Saharan Desert and transport it to the US?

  • voza0db

    Yes… an opinion many agree on!

  • You lack any ingenuity to think outside your tiny little box. The same small amt of land on all the continents.

  • You are very good at not seeing things. It’s not any big deal to build 100% renewable energy. Your points don’t stand based in evidence.

  • Robert Riley

    Thank you. Excellent article. We need all the above, and action in the streets to support it. And we need an end to capitalism, because it will continue to gobble up the natural world at unsustainable rates, regardless of whether fossil fuel use is ended or not.

  • voza0db


  • voza0db

    Funny how you are just unable to answer to most simple questions…

    What’s the time frame to achieve 100% RE just in the US?

  • chetdude

    “It’s not any big deal to build 100% renewable energy”

    It is if the plan is to continue powering the capitalist, consumption based “economy” for even the 8 billion people who will probably be around by 2020 or so.

    There aren’t enough resources available and the Planet’s regeneration capacity cannot cope with that amount of manufacturing…

    We reached Earth Overshoot Day on July 28th this year — 3 days earlier than 2018. Can’t sustain that.

  • chetdude

    A) Where do you get the resources and energy to build those panels (and build new ones when they wear out)?
    B) Where do you put the toxic waste from their manufacture?
    C) How to you transmit all of that power?

    Techo-fantasy is no substitute for Birth Control and Empowerment of Women that will be necessary to lower our population to a level that our Finite Planet can sustain.

  • voza0db

    You must understand that renewables guys and gals don’t care about those details of “not enough resources”!

  • voza0db

    If renewguy answers all those questions I’ll consider that an event horizon!

    And you forget to ask him if in the other land areas in other continents the construction of massive solar and wind farms don’t have any environmental impacts!

  • A) Where do you get the resources and energy to build those panels (and build new ones when they wear out)?

    SIlicon, aluminum, steel, plastic are all quite plentiful. Energy from the other renewable energy.

    B) Where do you put the toxic waste from their manufacture?

    The safest way to store a spent solar panel is to leave it in its casing. It is totally benign in its glass and plastic casing.

    Pollution and Energy in Production
    PV has been a well-known method of generating clean, emission-free electricity. PV systems are often made of PV modules and inverter (changing DC to AC). PV modules are mainly made of PV cells, which has no fundamental difference from the material used for making computer chips. The process of producing PV cells is energy-intensive and involves highly poisonous and environmentally toxic chemicals. There are a few PV manufacturing plants around the world producing PV modules with energy produced from PV. This counteractive measure considerably reduces the carbon footprint of the manufacturing process of PV cells. Management of the chemicals used and produced during the manufacturing process is subject to the factories’ local laws and regulations.

    C) How to you transmit all of that power?

    Same way you do all the other power generation.

  • If you use a serious energy efficiency program, the amount of energy needed can be greatly reduced. We don’t seem to have that in our congress right now. We silicon and aluminum are the two most abundant materials on earth. We will have plenty of raw materials to do this.

  • Time frame based on what?

  • chetdude

    I agree with your first statement — conservation/Power Down is the most important single tactic towards long term survival…next to lowering the population to a sustainable level.

    Silicon and Aluminum are abundant but the other necessary materials, the energy to manufacture panels, the waste and pollution sinks for the toxins produced and the energy for transporting it all are not that abundant…

  • chetdude

    I have solar systems on the buildings on my farm. They provide about 95% of my energy needs. Alas, I was very fortunate since we can’t possibly do that for 7 1/2 billion humans. let alone the delusional estimates of 10 billion in a few years.

    C) about 50% of all of the energy produced by burning fossil fuels, solar, etc. is wasted during transmission. Local PV generation is better than that. Community/Neighborhood generation would be better.

    But Sahara even to the rest of Africa is an opium addict’s pipe dream…

  • voza0db

    You are the one saying it’s possible… So you must know.

    But since I’m a good guy I’ll help you!

    Starting from TODAY with the current infrastructures…

  • kevinzeese

    What are you talking about? I said finance was a significant part of the economy and transition from the current finance system was needed.

  • Your question is way open ended. And you don’t seem to understand how to focus your attention.

    Renewable energy can reach very high levels of penetrations in 10 years. It takes all of society working together. Since fossil fuels are scared sh**less, dragging their feet, lying to you, its going to take longer.

    Hawaii has legislated to reach 100% by 2045 and will reach it early.

  • kevinzeese

    We have lots of deserts and other open spaces for solar in most parts of the US, and distributed energy on rooftops of homes, businesses, parking garages and government building are all available.

    There are solutions. The one thing that is not a solution is a fossil fuel economy.

  • kevinzeese

    Reality stays the same because we are still a fossil fuel-based economy. That is what has to change and it can change. There are many reports on how to transition to a clean energy economy. Do you just not want to face that possibility? Your negativity continues to astound me.

  • kevinzeese

    Nonsense. We know there are challenges with the transition but they can be overcome, what cannot be overcome is fossil fuel climate pollution. That is what has to change.

  • kevinzeese

    There are plans that could make the transition by 2035 and if we make this a priority, it can be completed even sooner. It needs to be an Apollo like project or a mobilization like WW II. The transformation to a clean energy economy needs to be a top priority.

  • AGW is a real mother of future if we don’t get this tackled. There is plenty of information showing the time line of pollution vs climate conditions.

  • teslas-australian-virtual-power-plant-propped-up-grid-during-coal-outage/568812/

    This is a creative use of solar to keep the utility stable. Its the Tesla Virtual Power plant in South Australia. These systems add value way far beyond just straight power. It ups the power quality of the grid.

  • voza0db

    I’m the one with focus problems! Go read your previous comments and then, if still able, do return…

    Hawaii is a good example, but not to support your point of view! And even they with that small population ~1,400,000 and just 895,000 MWh of energy production STILL NEED at least 25 years to reach 100%!

    Care to extrapolate to the US?!

  • voza0db

    What plans are those? Any links? I would like to read them…

  • voza0db

    What challenges are those and how can they be overcome?

  • voza0db

    That one made me laugh!

    Just because we use the word “desert” it doesn’t mean that that area is lifeless! You need to go read the studies about environmental impacts and wildlife loss that occurs in the desert areas already occupied with solar farms or wind farms…

    What’s the difference of killing other animals and destroy ecosystems with fossil fuels or renewables?!

    Is it just for that “green good felling”?

  • voza0db

    Indeed there are many words flying around… funny that for most part it remains in the “word parallel universe”!

    I ask you the same…

    Do you want to reduce energy production/use from the current ~29.7 trillions kWh/year and just run on those ~4 billions GWh from renewables?

  • Sometimes I just have to come out and say it. That was a really dumb statement. What is it that you don’t get about building up to your number? All you have to do is build it. This smallness you have is getting a little annoying.

    I’m not going to answer any more of your twiddle.

  • kevinzeese

    Here is one road map for achieving a clean energy economy. There are many others. Since it was written the technology has improved.

  • Silicon solar panels are the main ones being sold. There are toxins and local law regultions on how to deal with the toxins. If a community protects itself, they make manufacturers toe the line. If not, there are a great many more problems to deal with than solar toxins.

    Coal produces huge amounts of toxins stored in the ponds. Illinois where I live was once a strong state on coal. Just about every storage site has polluted ground water near it. Plus coal is the dirtiest of energies there are. Good riddance to them.

  • voza0db

    “answer any more” FakeRenewguy you haven’t answer a single simple question!

    Bye Bye… Happy Climate Change.

  • voza0db

    A lot of scroll…

    But of the roadmap that starts at page 174 of the pdf are any of those actions working today in the US?

    One I know is not “Eliminate all subsidies and tax breaks for fossil fuels and nuclear power (including guarantees for nuclear waste disposal from new power plants, loan guarantees, and subsidized insurance).

    In the end we are still talking about the same reality that I keep pointing to. We talk, we study, we write books, we talk again, we make some tests… but in the mean time, just like Greta said, nothing is CHANGING!

    Another reality check that I always point to…

    Even if by some really awkward situation the US reached the year 2030 with a cut greater than 50% in GHG emissions it wouldn’t matter on a Planetary scale. How would you convince China, India, Russia, Canada, most countries in Africa and most countries in Europe, and a few more in the South America to do the same at the same speed?

  • chetdude

    I’m afraid we’ve gotten mired in the weeds and you’ve missed my essential point.

    Our basic problem is OVER-POPULATION, a human population that thanks to burning (and eating) fossil-fuels already numbers at least 5 billion more than the planet can sustainably support in terms of resources, energy and waste sinks without burning fossil-fuels (until they’re gone)…and the over-exploitation of resources we’re already engaged in and over-pollution…

    Earth Overshoot Day was July 28th this year, 3 days earlier than in 2018. We can’t sustain this let alone build 3 billion standalone solar systems.

  • Agreed

  • voza0db

    And just to show what I mean by “What’s the difference of killing other animals and destroy ecosystems with fossil fuels or renewables?! Is it just for that “green good felling”?”

    Researchers are using new technologies to provide more specific details about the number of bats killed by wind turbines in Iowa!
    How are bats affected by wind turbines?

    Dead bats are found beneath wind turbines all over the world. It’s estimated that tens
    to hundreds of thousands die at wind turbines each year in North America alone.

    source: USGS

    And this is just the tip of deaths caused by the FAKE GREEN RENEWABLES!

  • voza0db

    Right on cue… And again related to “2. Keep fossil fuels in the ground”!!

    Ahhh… I can just smell the Climate Change… Changing!