We Are Not Fooled By The Hong Kong Protests

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Above photo: Agnes Chow and Nathan Law accept the 2018 Lantos Human Rights Prize on behalf of Joshua Wong in Washington, DC. Facebook.

Update: Protests continued in Hong Kong this weekend. The protesters returned to the use of violence and the police responded. The South China Morning Post reported: “In a now familiar pattern, the protesters threw bricks, petrol bombs, corrosive liquid and other projectiles at the police, who responded with tear gas, pepper balls and sponge grenades. Twenty-eight people were arrested, including an organiser of an approved protest march. At least 10 people were hospitalised, including two men in serious condition.”

Some people in the United States are confused about the protests going on in Hong Kong. Whenever the corporate media and politicians, especially people like Marco Rubio, applaud a social movement, it is a red flag that the protests are not a progressive people’s movement, but serve other purposes.  Is this really a democracy movement? Are workers protesting the deep inequality and exploitation there? If not, what are these protests really about?

Fortunately, a more complete narrative of what is happening in Hong Kong and how it relates to the geopolitical conflict between the United States and China is developing among independent and movement media. The following is a description of what has been learned recently.

Hong Kong Protests: Not a Democracy Movement, but an Anti-China Tool

What is happening in Hong Kong is not actually a people’s uprising for democracy, but a tool for anti-China rhetoric and “Great Power Conflict.” Many Hong Kong protesters are pro-capitalist and racist in nature, referring to mainland Chinese as locusts, and are calling for the United States to intervene. Many of the same tactics employed by Venezuelan, Nicaraguan, and Ukrainian regime change operations are re-appearing in Hong Kong. For example, demonstrators have used violence as a tactic to entice police to respond with violence in order to put out a false narrative of state repression against them.

Fight Back News describes the problem: “There’s a tendency among progressives in the United States to support big crowds of people protesting in other countries. No doubt, the corporate media assists in this process by labeling certain movements ‘pro-democracy’ or ‘freedom fighters.’”

Just because there are people in the street does not make protests progressive, worker-based or for the people’s interests. Fight Back News reports how Hong Kong has been used by China as a way to attract foreign investment, but also as a way to make the Renminbi (RMB) a more powerful currency as well as to advance China’s Belt & Road initiative. These are major threats to US dominance.

Controversial American political activist Joey Gibson, founder of the group Patriot Prayer, holds up an American flag while attending an anti-extradition rally in Hong Kong on July 7, 2019. Facebook Live screengrab

Dan Cohen of the Grayzone mentions the ties between the protest movement and right-wing racist groups in the US. This is an issue requiring further reporting as it is strange that pro-Trump, racist groups are supporting the protests and the protesters are using US racist symbols.

Cohen’s major focus is the capitalist ties of the Hong Kong protesters. He describes the Rubert Murdoch of Hong Kong, Jimmy Lai, the self-described “head of opposition media,” who has been spending a lot of money, millions, to build the movement and giving a lot of media time to the anti-China rhetoric. And, he shows the connections between these capitalists and the Trump administration, i.e. he has had meetings with Bolton, Pence, and Pompeo as well as with neocons in the Senate, Marco Rubio, and Tom Cotton. 

The goal of the Hong Kong protests is only unclear because they are trying to hide their true purpose. The real goal is preventing the full integration of Hong Kong into China in 2047 when the transition agreement between China and the United Kingdom is finished. The United States, the United Kingdom, and billionaires in Hong Kong want it to be integrated into the western capitalist economy and fear China’s state-planned economy. If they succeed, Hong Kong will become a base of economic, military and political operations for the US at the Chinese border, a critical position for the West’s ‘Great Power Conflict’ with Russia and China.

The US is investing in an anti-China movement to make integration of Hong Kong into China difficult. China is already hedging its bets by building Shenzhen across the bay, a state-planned, market-based economy, which will become an alternative to Hong Kong and shrink Hong Kong’s importance. The people of Hong Kong will be the losers if this occurs.

The Hong Kong Protest Is Not A Working-Class Revolt

Even though there are good reasons for workers in Hong Kong to revolt, these protests are not focused on the issues of economic insecurity, i.e. high levels of poverty, the exorbitant cost of housing, low wages, and long hours. As Sara Flounders writes, “For the last 10 years wages have been stagnant in Hong Kong while rents have increased 300 percent; it is the most expensive city in the world.”

But, as Fight Back News explains, “The Hong Kong protests are absolutely not driven by or in the interests of the working class, whether in Hong Kong or mainland China.” In fact, the Hong Kong Federation of Trade Unions is not backing the demonstrations and called on its members to reject the call for a strike on August 5 put out by the Hong Kong Confederation of Trade Unions, which is backed by the US National Endowment for Democracy (NED).

If the protesters were focused on workers rights, they would be demanding an end to, or at least reform of, the neoliberal capitalism of Hong Kong that is dominated by big financial interests and corruption. In fact, half of the seats in the legislature are set aside for business interests who vote to protect their profits and not basic needs such as housing, but there is no criticism of this by the protesters. 

In Popular Resistance, we wrote: “Hong Kong has the world’s highest rents, a widening wealth gap and a poverty rate of 20 percent.” These are crisis-level problems for the vast majority of people in Hong Kong, but they were not the focus of the protests. 

Fight Back News writes: “In actuality, the protests in Hong Kong serve the interests of finance capital, both in the city itself and around the world,” and makes the important point that “Hong Kong’s working class has nothing to gain from worse relations with mainland China, much less from ‘independence.’ They suffered greatly under British colonial rule – no minimum wage laws; no labor protections; barbaric legal punishments like flogging and more.”

The Role of the United States is Evident to Anyone Who Looks

The NED has spent millions of dollars to build this anti-China movement over the years in a place with a population of 7.3 million people, over a million fewer people than New York City. The first to report on NED involvement in the current protest was  Alexander Rubinstein of Mintpress News, who wrote: “the coalition cited by Hong Kong media, including the South China Morning Post and the Hong Kong Free Press, as organizers of the anti-extradition law demonstrations is called the Civil Human Rights Front. That organization’s website lists the NED-funded HKHRM [Human Rights Monitor], Hong Kong Confederation of Trade Unions, the Hong Kong Journalists Association, the Civic Party, the Labour Party, and the Democratic Party as members of the coalition.” HKHRM alone received more than $1.9 million in funds from the NED between 1995 and 2013.

The Viable Opposition blogger, in How Washington is Meddling In the Affairs of Hong Kong, describes NED’s history as a regime change agent for the United States and the recent NED funding in Hong Kong, pointing to a total of $1,357,974 on grants to organizations described as promoting freedom, democracy and human rights in Hong Kong over the period from 2015 to 2018.

This is not short-term funding but a long-term commitment by the United States.  NED has been doing mass funding in Hong Kong since 1996. In 2012, NED invested $460,000 through its National Democratic Institute, to build the anti-China movement (aka pro-democracy movement), particularly among university students. Two years later, the mass protests of Occupy Central occurred.

Sara Flounders points out US funding goes beyond NED, writing: “Funding from the NED, the Ford, Rockefeller, Soros and numerous other corporate foundations, Christian churches of every denomination, and generous British funding, is behind this hostile, subversive network orchestrating the Hong Kong protests.” The US-funding of NGO’s confuses political activists, media and commentators because they fund a myriad of NGO’s in Hong Kong. As a result, there are human rights, democracy, youth and other Hong Kong spokespersons whose NED funding is not disclosed when they talk in the media. 

Martin Lee, Benny Tai and Joshua Wong speak at Freedom House, 2015.

Hong Kong protesters are not always secret about their ties to the US. In 2014, Mintpress News exposed US involvement in Occupy Central. They pointed out that Martin Lee, a Hong Kong protest figure, was in bed with NED. They gave him an award and had his bio on their website. He came to Washington, DC in 2014 along with Anson Chan, another protest figure, and met with Vice President Joe Biden and Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA).  Lee took part in a NED talk hosted specifically for him. In 2015, Lee and others were applauded for their leadership by Freedom House, which, as the now-deceased Robert Parry described in 2017, works hand in hand with the NED.

In this Popular Resistance story, we point out that during the current protests, participants were meeting with Julie Eadeh, of the US Consulate at a hotel. And, when Nathan Law and Agnes Chow visited the US they met with the China-hawk Chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee Rep. Eliot Engel. They also met with Vice President Pence, Secretary of State Pompeo, National Security Adviser John Bolton, and Senator Marco Rubio.

Protesters carry US and UK flags, and sing the Stars and Stripes Forever and the US national anthem, displaying their connection to western nations. In one of the most iconic moments, demonstrating how these protests are really a microcosm of the conflict between the US and China, a protester used a US flag to beat a Chinese reporter, Fu Guohao of Global Times, who was tied up and assaulted at the Hong Kong airport.

Some believe the protests are too big for the US to control and point to the amount of money being spent by the NED. If the populations of Hong Kong and the US are compared, $1 million in funding for the movement in Hong Kong is equivalent to $60 million in the US. Additional funds are also being provided by billionaires. That level of resources is gigantic for popular movements that typically run on shoestring budgets.

The only way not to see US involvement in the Hong Kong protests is to close your eyes, ears, and mind and pretend it does not exist.

Challenging the Dominant Western Narrative

Although Western backing and political ambitions are the reality, it is a challenge to get this narrative out more widely. Too many in the US are confused by the messaging coming from the Hong Kong billionaires, NED-funded NGO’s, bi-partisan politicians in DC and the military-intelligence establishment, all made larger by the corporate mass media.

Corporate powers are banning social media accounts and YouTube Channels from China to suppress social media activism that tells a different narrative. For example, an article in the China Daily documents US involvement in detail with photographs of meetings between US officials and Hong Kong opposition, as well as the role of NED and Voice of America.

Independent media outlets, such as the ones cited above, are exposing who is behind the protests and their pro-capitalist, imperialist agenda. They are starting to change the dominant western narrative. This is critical because it is easy for activists to be drawn into supporting movements that are counter to our goals for social and economic justice as well as peace.

Hong Kongers have also been manipulated pawns in the US Great Power Conflict with China. They are advocating against their own interests by seeking what will essentially be re-colonization by the West. If the US is successful, it will not be good for the people of Hong Kong, Asia or the world.

 

  • Gareth Smith

    It’s so easy to be seduced into supporting the Hong Kong protesters whose initial demand of no extradition to China appeared totally laudable. However, this article details the intimate connections between American capitalism and its acolytes in Hong Kong and situates the protests in the wider picture of US/China strategic power play.

  • Infarction

    News reports of the Hog Kong demonstrations have been all over the corporate news. If the demonstrations about anything remotely left wing, there would not be a whisper of these events. In comparison, not a single breath is spent on massive demonstrations supporting Nicolas Maduro in Venezuela.

    Any movement that has the reactionary National Endowment for Democracy (NED) behind it is likely associated with the CIA.

    This entire charade has the stink of US meddling.

  • esmaiil fotoohi

    Just the cheapest farce played on the basis of the comedy played in Ukraine by the US. The play will not go further than the introduction.

  • It’s so unfortunate that people are not provided with objective and balanced reporting from mainstream media. Even though Trump, by labeling the media “Fake news”, has actually done the public a favor by encouraging them to question more of what they hear, many people are unaware of alternative independent media sources. From what I’ve gleaned in speaking to people on the street about this, they’re frustrated but unwilling to make the additional effort to seek out other news sources (even when given a few specifically to start with) – yes, I’ve followed up with some of the people I’ve spoken with weeks after our initial conversation and they haven’t gotten around to exploring other news venues. It is a continuance of what I have witnessed over many years of people who complain but do not desire change to the degree necessary for them to take actions that can solve the cause of their complaint – what a shame.

  • ANTONIO

    VIVA POPULAR RESISTANCE! I knew something stank when I saw the demonstrations (no extradition) but I had no way of knowing what was going on. Now that other sites have sold out to the corporate left, PR remains a reliable source of real and incisive analysis. Thanks.

  • Lou Novak

    While I don’t doubt there are attempts to infiltrate, direct and even provoke, to dismiss 100’s of thousands in the streets over months as tools seems to be a very simplified analysis of a complex situation.

  • kevinzeese

    We are not dismissing that hundreds of thousands of Hong Kongers have good reasons to be protesting. We have consistently pointed to their economic insecurity, poverty, unaffordable housing and low-pay/long hour jobs. Hong Kongers have a reason to be angry.

    But, the US and corporate executives have a different agenda and they are funding the protests — at very high levels, over many years. So, rather than the issues that would uplift working people the people’s anger is misdirected toward China, a country which does not control the Hong Kong economy or governance.

    The extradition bill was made an issue by business people fearing prosecution in China. They built the anger around that bill which would not have affected the people protesting unless they were involved in serious crimes like murder, rape or robbery that could result in a sentence of at least seven years.

    Don’t underestimate the ability of the US to manufacture protests, especially since they have been building anti-China sentiment since 1996. This has been a long-term project of the US that has escalated as China has become more of a threat to US dominance.

  • The extradition cases of Assange, Wanzhou, and Snowden are just a few examples of how this type of law can be misused. If I were a citizen/resident of Hong Kong, I would be opposed to the enactment of such a law for this reason alone.

  • Nikolas Bourbaki

    Critics say that a few million is not enough to organize/instigate the protests. These are often the same people that believe that a fraction of that amount in buff-bernie memes swayed the 2016 election for Trump in a country with 45 times the population of HK.

  • Werner Rhein

    Yes a lot of people, especially young people a ne not happy with their working and living conditions in Hong Kong, and for that around the world.
    But nobody would be send to Mainland China for a parking ticket or for not be able to pay their rent. China is after the white color criminals. The Billionaires are the ones who are scared and stole their money with fake transactions. The Leaders of banks and financial e trading corporation. The very ones who pot the trade restrictions on China The once Trump is bragging so much about it.
    These demonstrations have absolutely nothing to do with creating real democracy in Hong Kong or anywhere else on this earth.

  • chetdude

    And yet, NPR is calling those in the Honk Honk streets as “freedom fighters” – some “militant” and some “moderate”…

    While completely ignoring the real (80%) Freedom Fighters (Chavistas) in Venezuela and calling Guiado the “freedom fighter”.

    Interesting…

  • knobrainer

    This is the dumbest, most anti-humanitarian article I have ever encountered on this site! Just because some right wing opportunists see advantage in supporting these protests, you run a crappy “analysis” that reads as if it was crafted by China’s government media! China is one of the biggest threats to humanity, other than climate chaos and nuclear war. There is no bigger enemy of human rights and individual freedom than the Chinese totalitarian culture that reveres obedience and conformity. Their idea of “harmony” translates to a concept of individuals as sub-human utilitarian worker bees – we may as well all live in a beehive. Everything possible must be done by the rest of the world to hold them in check – their size and growing wealth and military power represents an existential threat to the idea of human beings with unassailable inalienable individual human rights that trump government power, coupled with the idea of representative government and the very idea that criticism of the powerful in any society is not only a right but it is a social good AND an OBLIGATION of every single member of society!! There is nothing more Orwellian than Chinese society. They literally score people for how compliant and obedient they are to government dictates, and if you receive demerits, it ruins your and your family’s entire life! You will be denied, housing, jobs, education, you name it. Odious beyond belief!!! I commend the courage and commitment of the brave Hong Kong protesters!!!! MAKING THE ABSURD ALLEGATION THAT THESE PROTESTS ARE FUNDAMENTALLY A WESTERN CAPITALIST PLOT IS THE DUMBEST THING I’VE EVER HEARD. ARE YOU KIDDING ME???

  • chetdude

    Even the “protesters” themselves are only claiming 70,000 — not even ONE 100 thousand.

    The real problem is that these “protests” are basically smoke-screens designed (and financed) to block analysis and recognition of the systemic disease of dominator hierarchies (Chinese, U.S. AND Hong Kong versions) and their favorite current tool, consumption based capitalism…

  • Margaret Flowers

    The law is very specific about what crimes qualify for extradition and there is an eight-level review. These include violent crimes and financial crimes that carry at least a seven year potential sentence. It makes sense for there to be an extradition agreement with China, of which Hong Kong is a part, and was historically for over a thousand years before the British colonized it. It’s just like there are extradition agreements in the US between states.

  • kevinzeese

    I can see from your writing that you have been inundaed with anti-Chinese reporting when you say “China is one of the biggest threats to humanity.” Tell that to the hundreds of millions they have lifted out of poverty and the hundreds of million into the middle class.

  • kevinzeese

    That’s right. The extradition proposal was for serious crimes with a 7+ year potential sentence and there was court review as well as review by the chief executive. The fears of thisproposal were way overblown and it would never be effected by it. Now, corporate executives might have to worry about be extradited for finance and other business crimes. In Hong Kong, they are hardly every prosecuted.

  • Lou Novak

    Reducing this as a response to the extradition proposal is more of the oversimplification I think is going on here. It may have been a tipping point but the approaching Chinese takeover of Hong Kong certainly is weighing heavily on the minds of Hong Kong residents. These last few months have seen a gatherings of 10’s of thousands every weekend.

  • Margaret Flowers

    The “Chinese Takeover”? Are you aware that Hong Kong has been part of China for two thousand years except during the British occupation? Hong Kong is part of China.

    Yes, there is unrest in Hong Kong because there is great inequality and exploitation of workers, but that isn’t coming from China. Hong Kong is in charge of its politics and economy. And the protesters aren’t demanding better working or living conditions. Shenzen, which is similar to Hong Kong but more integrated in China, has a lower cost of living.

    Fear of China has been cultivated by western powers and the wealthy for decades, and that is a big part of the reason for the protests. It’s similar to the fear of Russia so prominent in the US. Maintaining that fear and access to Hong Kong will allow western powers to continue to antagonize and demonize China, which is our current national security strategy.

  • kevinzeese

    You are right that the extradition law was not really what caused the unrest. That was just a tool to rile up an already angry population. The population is angry because the uber-capitalist Hong Kong is not good for the vast majority of HKer who cannot afford housing, have to work long hours at crummy jobs and many of whom live in poverty.

    And you are also right that 2047 is approaching, that is the year the agreement with the UK ends and the full transition back to China will occur. The US/UK/big business interests are aware of that date and have been organizing against that transition since it first began in 1996 (that is when NED funding began).

    I have no doubt the US/Uk/business interests do not want Hong Kong to be part of China. There has been a long term propaganda effort by the US to get people in HK to fear China. The US has been building an anti-Chima movement with millions of dollars and some of the business interests have used their control of the media for anti-China “news.” The US sees the potential of having an independent HK, allied with the US and West on China’s border. If they accomplish that, the US will next push for a military base in HK. They are working hard to make that happen and their effort can be seen in the consistent NED funding.

    But even with all this effort, HKers do not want change. A 2016 poll found 69.6% of HKers want “Maintenance of One Country Two Systems” while only 17.4% wanted “Independence.”

  • knobrainer

    I’d rather live in poverty than in an authoritarian dictatorship.

  • knobrainer

    What a joke! As if the corrupt Chinese legal system amd unelected Chinese leadership that takes orders from the Communist Party can be relied upon to render justice! I think this whole discussion thread is orchestrated by paid Chinese trolls.

  • jywade

    I think you are being naive. If it were true that it would only be for violent and financial crimes then I would agree. But let us not kid each other. For every one legitimate request there would be ten political ones. Until they practice what they preach, the rulers of China cannot be trusted to keep their word on this issue.

  • kmod

    Not paid Chinese trolls. Just misguided tankies who see everything through the prism of the U.S as if people elsewehere don’t have their own agency.

  • kmod

    Sorry, are you that naive? In Mainland China they lock up people for all kinds of trumped up charges and with no due process. Xi Jinpin himself said in a speech that China would never, ever allow judicial independence since the courts are supposed to serve the party.

    So, if China wants to extradite someone for whatever reasons it only has to submit a request with whatever charge that would fit those criteria for extradition. The HK court does not rule on the actual merits of the charges, just a prima facie ruling that the request fulfils some formal requirement. Also the CE has the power to deny extradition. But how do you trust someone like a mayor to defy the central government’s request?

    “It makes sense for there to be an extradition agreement with China, of
    which Hong Kong is a part, and was historically for over a thousand
    years before the British colonized it. It’s just like there are
    extradition agreements in the US between states.”

    That proves that you are totally out to lunch on Chinese history as well as today’s reality. Long story short, HK has a different legal system (it follows common law) from China, for one thing.

    I also find it interesting that a leftist doesn’t find the idea that a people “belonging” to an Emperor problematic (China == the Han Empire == the Emperor for” thousands of years”)

  • kmod

    “I have no doubt the US/Uk/business interests do not want Hong Kong to be part of China.”

    Neither do Chinese business interests BTW. It is the height of delusion of the Western left that somehow there is a contradiction between China and capitalism. In fact the tycoons in HK rule in cahoot with Beijing.

    This has never had anything to do with independence, it is a bogeyman used by Beijing to delegitmize local demands. Beijing uses “foreign interference” in a way very much like Russia Russia Russia is use to stifle dissent in the U.S.

  • kmod

    This is a very shallow analysis that betrays deep ignorance about the issue.

    Sure that U.S has its own agendas and use the protest as a propaganda weapon against the PRC. But I can’t see how it follows therefore the whole thing is created by the U.S. In fact the government could have easily diffuse the situation so it won’t be exploited by the U.S if it desires. But instead it takes every turn to inflame the situation.

    While both Washington and Beijing play up the “independence” angle for their different propaganda purposes, for example, always showing the few idiots who wave U.S flags in protests, it is a fringe opinion. Beijing uses bogeyman like “independence” and “foreign interference” in the same way that the U.S establishment uses “Russia” and “Putin” as smears against dissent, I think you people should know better.

    The grievances HK people are basically that the integrity of their institutions are under attack: the extradition bill threatens to undermine HK’s judicial independence (since China’s legal system is still based on kangaroo courts) and police brutality and selective application of the law compromise the integrity of law enforcement.

    Analyses like yours highlight a problem of some U.S leftists (the tankies). They always view world events simplistically through a U.S prism and deny the agency of nonwhite people abroad, so the U.S’s usually less than nobel agendas becomes the central point of their critique while the actual people on the ground become just props for their “anti-imperialist” narrative, this, is a kind of intellectual imperialism.

  • kmod

    Two thousand years? HK was a piece of rock infested by pirates when it was ceded to Britain. It was built by refugees that fled civil wars in China since.

    The Chinese state as we understand today doesn’t have two thousand years of history (though they would claim the Chinese civilization exists for 5 thousand years, which is kind of bs too) It is a political fiction created in 1911

    Before “China” didn’t exist, just many warring tribes. The Manchurian Empire which gave Britain HK was considered a foreign occupier all the way til the Republican revolution of 1911. The slogan for the revolution was “externally resist the foreign invaders (Europe and Japan), internally expel the barbarian usurpers (the Manchus).

    China absolutely has something to with the exploitation of workers and inequality in HK. Beijing colludes with the tycoons to rule HK. One of the features of HK’s legislature is that a big block of seats is set aside to the pro Beijing oligarchs. One of the democratic demands of the HK people is to open these seats up for general election so that they can rid themselves of the oligarch overlords. They don’t get it say Beijing says no.

    And also FYI HK’s social spendings are capped because Beijing doesn’t allow the government to spend on social welfare like those that leftists in the U.S fight for.

    I think you have some really messed up idea about China and HK. Even HK is more “socialist” than China in many ways.

  • kmod

    “Fear of China has been cultivated by western powers and the wealthy for decades”

    LOL. Believe me if you have witnessed the great famine, the many waves of murderous political campaigns, the “Great Cultural Revolution” and last but not least Tiananmen massacre (which by the way is far from the worst atrocity since 1949) up close you don’t need to listen to “Western powers” to fear the CCP.

    Why do you American leftists always assume people of color abroad are idiots while “Western propagandas” are so powerful? It is some kind of intellectual imperialism of the American left.

  • rgaura

    I sure wish we had a `social merit score ´ in the US. It would empty Congress, and most of the federal bureaucracy, and eliminate the CIA!!
    Kidding aside, different cultures have different standards for privacy, and ways of organizing themselves. How in the world can westerners valorize our very failed experiments, which have gone so awry as to not serve the health of individuals or communities, seek to impose this system on others? Why not see what seems to work, and adopt those measures?

  • rgaura

    If you live in the US, you already live in an authoritarian dictatorship.

  • rgaura

    China has had a continuous culture for thousands of years. The present government has for the last decade at least encouraged the teachings of ancient culture in their institutions of higher learning. They allow teaching of ethics, grounded in ancient wisdom, in their MBA programs, something the US might consider.

  • rgaura

    China no longer needs Hong Kong as its intermediary with world finance. More billionaires live in Hong Kong than any other city in the world. They are going to have to accept a decline in importance and power. Hong Kong will be more economically democratic under direct Chinese rule, and that will be good for the majority of its citizens.

  • kmod

    That is because the flag is the last refuge for the scoundrel. nobody really believe the CCP is communist anymore, so they promote nationalism instead.Please tell us what do you know about that “ancient wisdom”?? The authoritarian state of Singapore is the best representation of that “ancient wisdom” in action. Thanks, but no thanks.

  • D Turgeon

    Yup. Just read an article with photos of China supporters waving Chinese out the windows of Ferrari and McLaren ‘supercars’ cruising past a public protest in Vancouver, B.C. Rampant capitalist worker exploitation is pretty much evident on both sides.

  • D Turgeon

    Disgusting, not interesting.

  • Andreas Klein

    The Hong-Kong-ians are Chinese but they try to remain the democratic sort. They don’t fight China or the mainland Chinese. They only love their freedom gained during the British rule.

  • KK Fung

    try live in arabslan bomb ny usa daily it democracy free and in ruins

  • KK Fung

    you idiot already surpass all the historian which said china civilization is at least 3 thousand years old. what a stupid loser you are

  • WW DixieDanceKings

    Very well said!